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speedracer_mec
DeepHouse & Progressive

Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Greece, where the good progressive comes from.
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Aug-19-2004 21:35
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Cyrus King
Anti NeoCon Addict

Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto
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Aug-19-2004 22:07
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drewfactor
werd

Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
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| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Again, it was all over the news last week. Iraq dismantled its program in 1991
Do a search
HAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAAHAHA.....DENMOCRACY IN ISREAL....AHAHAHAHAH
Now that was funny.
How can Israel be a democracy with an OCCUPATION within its own borders! How can ISrael be a democracy when arab israeli's are treated like second class citizens! BULLSHIT!
Israel did FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more damage to lebenon that the Syrians. I guess you choose to forget the actual death and destruction and try to bring down the negative connotation associated with this invasion by pathetically comapring it to Syria's occupation... yeah.. Syria is SOOOOOOO brutal to the arabs.. what should we do. LOL... get a clue drew!
Your rhetoric is so baseless and contrary and American-forced fed that the only way i think this would come spewing out of someones mouth is if they watched that sorry news channel
Watch out... the terror alert is on high! The ARABS ARE COMING!!!!!
morons 
You wanna know suffering??? take a look at Darfur.. COngo, North Korea! Hundreds of thousands.. Even MILLIONS of people are Starving, under civil war, and dying from AIDS... thats where all the "evil" is that you so patriotically proclaim
The middle east wasnt under war, starvation or dying from aids Africa is! Sure there are human rights issues..like woman being denied certain rights.. but if you want to talk about suffering.. go to Africa... not the middle east. Have you been there? Youdont know anyting.. only what the media sticks in your head.
You think woman are sad in Iran? they hate the mullahs but they are not suffering like your led to beleive. People are not starving or being hanged and stoned. How about Jordan....or lebenon.
Suadi Arabia on the other hand and good friend of the US.. is what should be dealt with. Yet in all this talk.. you haven mentioned one little thing from them.. why.. becuase they are not made to look as evil as saddam is.
Once again, you fail to completely argue you points well... all you do is repsond by selectively choosing some of my points. |
If you and I could sit down and have nice chat over a beer sometime, I'm sure we'd be able to have a good conversation/argument about this stuff in which I could refute you point by point. This medium is not really conducive to that, so if you feel I'm selectively arguing, it's not because I can't annhialate your argument It's time permitting. Maybe if I didn't have a life or a job I could spend 24/7 spewing hate filled rhetoric just like you (just kidding ).
In fact I do contend with some of your points, about the Saudis being in bed with the Americans for example. I don't claim America or the Bush administration to be perfect. I actually think Michael Moore is correct in his movie about alot of this stuff re: American and Saudi oil politics. I just don't think that it all lands on Bush's lap as being HIS fault. It's years and years and years of politics going way back to early post WW2. It's not a big conspiracy by Bush and his "oil cronies" for world global domination. If that's what you believe then fine.
So, you can continue to dismiss my opinions which are based on fact, reason, and evidence as "force fed propaganda" from "the evil american imperialists" (did I mention that the whole muslim world is a product of an imperial conquest?)...because it's easy.
Gee, I remember meeting you at a party once (Viva I think it was) briefly, and you seemed like such a chill guy...but based on your posts, you seem really angry! Cheer up! 
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Aug-19-2004 23:50
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Cyrus King
Anti NeoCon Addict

Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto
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| quote: | Originally posted by drewfactor
If you and I could sit down and have nice chat over a beer sometime, I'm sure we'd be able to have a good conversation/argument about this stuff in which I could refute you point by point. This medium is not really conducive to that, so if you feel I'm selectively arguing, it's not because I can't annhialate your argument It's time permitting. Maybe if I didn't have a life or a job I could spend 24/7 spewing hate filled rhetoric just like you (just kidding ). |
I am at work... the beauty of family business allows me to participate freely on this forum without a stupid fuck manager watching my back
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In fact I do contend with some of your points, about the Saudis being in bed with the Americans for example. I don't claim America or the Bush administration to be perfect. I actually think Michael Moore is correct in his movie about alot of this stuff re: American and Saudi oil politics. I just don't think that it all lands on Bush's lap as being HIS fault. It's years and years and years of politics going way back to early post WW2. It's not a big conspiracy by Bush and his "oil cronies" for world global domination. If that's what you believe then fine. |
Please read some of the PNAC initiatives that are being discussed.. maybe that will change you mind about this whole thing.
Paul Wolfowitz.. the secret mastermind behind this shit... even said the WMD issue was a "convenient excuse"
Though i do not think that these men are tying to take over the world, i still think they dream about it. 
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So, you can continue to dismiss my opinions which are based on fact, reason, and evidence as "force fed propaganda" from "the evil american imperialists" (did I mention that the whole muslim world is a product of an imperial conquest?)...because it's easy.
Gee, I remember meeting you at a party once (Viva I think it was) briefly, and you seemed like such a chill guy...but based on your posts, you seem really angry! Cheer up! |
First off, i can say that my points are based on "fact, reason, and evidence" too ... stop flattering yourself
Second, i think that what America is doing is modern style imperialism, under the guise of "liberation" and "security"
third.. i hope Islam rots in hell
Fourth...there are a few here that can attest that I am actually not an angry person. Most of my day is spent cracking up and joking around with friends and family
Its when i see and hear pro-war drabble that has been consistently refuted.. i just cant stand to see it reiterated even to this day.
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