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Originally posted by walkindude GUY, did you watch the olympics.....TIESTO was all over the place...the worry now is, should EDM become mainstream, would "we" want to keep listening to it....Frankly, I like the whole underground concept of it.....

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Originally posted by walkindude Thats a tough question, the reason I'd like it kept underground is because its cool to know that only a minority like it, and it keeps it exclusive.

And that right there is the epitome of the lame, elitist, I'm-cool-because-I-don't-conform attitude of the particular subsection of the trance/EDM subculture I despise.

You newbies have missed the whole point of EDM culture. It's about having fun. It's about expanding your mind and letting the music take you on a spiritual journey. It's about letting yourself go, dancing like nobody's watching, and suddenly understanding all kinds of people who don't have a thing in common with you except for one thing... the moment.

It's not about being fucking cool. It's not about being underground. Okay sure, too much popularity stifles creativity and that's certainly a valid argument but that doesn't sound much like what you were getting at.

Exclusive? Who fucking cares. The beauty of the the old school rave culture and in part, the new-school EDM scene was that nobody had anything to prove. Everybody was welcome. There was no image, there were no pretenses, it wasn't ABOUT that. THAT is what made it different, and special. Every other culture had its image to protect, its homogenous, exclusive, stifling demands of conformity. Raves and dance music didn't.

Yes I'd keep listening to it no matter how popular it gets because I don't care what other people listen to. Even if popularity does bring in crappy producers and DJs, that doesn't mean we can't be selective about what we listen to and throw away the shit that has no personal meaning for us. I don't need to parade around yelling to everyone how DIFFERENT I am.

I'm sorry, but those are the lamest two posts I've read in this forum in a long time.

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2009-02-21 - DJ Attention @ I'm So Popular
2009-06-18 - DJ Annoying @ People Need To Know Where I'll Be
2012-11-32 - DJ Insufferable ɸ Or At Least the Stalkers I Complain About
2048-06-66 - Spastic & Whocares ¶ Although I'm Actually Flattered
9999-45-81 - Tweaker Gimp ☼ I Probably Won't Even Go To This But I Have To Make Sure I Fill Up All The Available Space Here

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Originally posted by walkindude you just contradicted your self....

hhhmmm, I don't think so...while both *results* are the same (leaving the scene when the music goes mainstream), there can be different reasons for deciding to leave.

Leaving *just* because it's become popular, *just* because you want to be in a scene that's "elite" and small...that is kind of lame. Leaving because the music itself has suffered because of the scene going mainstream is another matter (and what I'm saying I'd do...I could care less how many other people are into trance).

It's just like people going to Guv because it's perceived by them to be a "cool" place to be...surely you've run into the idiots that don't know the music, don't know the DJ, and don't even LIKE the music and/or the DJ, lol...but they still go. Then there's the people who *don't* go because it's too "popular" for their liking...

Both types of people are equally lame in my books I go because the music and vibe is generally really good, period...not for the "coolness" factor, or lack thereof, that some people invent.

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Originally posted by DigiNut And that right there is the epitome of the lame, elitist, I'm-cool-because-I-don't-conform attitude of the particular subsection of the trance/EDM subculture I despise. You newbies have missed the whole point of EDM culture. It's about having fun. It's about expanding your mind and letting the music take you on a spiritual journey. It's about letting yourself go, dancing like nobody's watching, and suddenly understanding all kinds of people who don't have a thing in common with you except for one thing... the moment. It's not about being fucking cool. It's not about being underground. Okay sure, too much popularity stifles creativity and that's certainly a valid argument but that doesn't sound much like what you were getting at. Exclusive? Who fucking cares. The beauty of the the old school rave culture and in part, the new-school EDM scene was that nobody had anything to prove. Everybody was welcome. There was no image, there were no pretenses, it wasn't ABOUT that. THAT is what made it different, and special. Every other culture had its image to protect, its homogenous, exclusive, stifling demands of conformity. Raves and dance music didn't. Yes I'd keep listening to it no matter how popular it gets because I don't care what other people listen to. Even if popularity does bring in crappy producers and DJs, that doesn't mean we can't be selective about what we listen to and throw away the shit that has no personal meaning for us. I don't need to parade around yelling to everyone how DIFFERENT I am. I'm sorry, but those are the lamest two posts I've read in this forum in a long time.

talk about taking it personally, all of us are here every fucking day on this website because we appreciate this music more than the mainstream audience,so yeah your right we will keep on listening no matter how mainstream it becomes.

you might disagree with the whole "exclusive" factor right now, but when it becomes mainstream and this site is flooded with idiots who think know their EDM. Then Id like to see how many times you visit this website. When every other person in the crowd is a trance addict.

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Originally posted by walkindude but when ... and this site is flooded with idiots who think know their EDM

Yeah, I think I'm starting to see your point...

I don't have any particular attachment to "this site". It's the people I know and respect from "this site" that matter to me. There are already too many idiots to count, but it doesn't deter me, I just ignore them or flame them.

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My party schedule:
2009-02-21 - DJ Attention @ I'm So Popular
2009-06-18 - DJ Annoying @ People Need To Know Where I'll Be
2012-11-32 - DJ Insufferable ɸ Or At Least the Stalkers I Complain About
2048-06-66 - Spastic & Whocares ¶ Although I'm Actually Flattered
9999-45-81 - Tweaker Gimp ☼ I Probably Won't Even Go To This But I Have To Make Sure I Fill Up All The Available Space Here

I disagree (with walkindude)...anyone who comes on here, who acts like an idiot, and who knows little about trance and EDM is quickly made to feel unwelcome Not necessarily in a mean way, but if anyone starts talking shit about DJs, the music, etc. people pounce and correct them. If you were constantly being corrected on your ignorance, would you keep posting? most people would not and that's why most people on here, regardless of whether or not you like them, at least know their music

popularity just doesn't factor into the equation for me. I literally get goosebumps when I hear particular types of trance...or certain tracks...that's in no way related to how many other people may or may not feel the same way.

back on topic. P DIDDY IS A CLOWN!!!

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Originally posted by MarkT back on topic. P DIDDY IS A CLOWN!!!

TRUE!!

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Originally posted by MarkT back on topic. P DIDDY IS A CLOWN!!!