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Originally posted by dj tek what are you talking about man ? just because its not infested with a super main synth line, doesnt mean its not trance, every element in Avenue is trance.. bassline, blackground main melody, and the signature pvd kick. that whole album[Out there and back] was a trance album and one of the best trance artist albums til this day.

I would probably agree that avenue is trance, perhaps more techy than others he has done, but still trance. Just to clarify, even though I wasn't being addressed, some of his older, older stuff is less trancy.

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Originally posted by dj tek what are you talking about man ? just because its not infested with a super main synth line, doesnt mean its not trance, every element in Avenue is trance.. bassline, blackground main melody, and the signature pvd kick. that whole album[Out there and back] was a trance album and one of the best trance artist albums til this day.

OTAB is trance???? Pikes is trance?? Vega is trance??? Together We Will Conquer is trance?? Thats bullshit

You cant define 'trance' by reference to elements of the track (bassline etc). Thats not how it works.

And I'm not a man

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Originally posted by Nite-Mer I would probably agree that avenue is trance, perhaps more techy than others he has done, but still trance. Just to clarify, even though I wasn't being addressed, some of his older, older stuff is less trancy.

arguement is that Avenue is indeed trance. it was made when trance was at its peak 1999, and from a classic trance album OTAB.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee OTAB is trance???? Pikes is trance?? Vega is trance??? Together We Will Conquer is trance?? Thats bullshit You cant define 'trance' by reference to elements of the track (bassline etc). Thats not how it works. And I'm not a man

Pikes is trance. Out there is definitely trance and progressive trance, for the most part. There may be a couple of minor exceptions, but it's a very trancy album. The most I would say is some tracks lean towards the progressive trance arena.

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Originally posted by dj tek it was made when trance was at its peak 1999

So anything made in 1999 is trance? This argument doesnt really follow...


anyway, Avenue was made in 96/97 so that isnt relevant.

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Originally posted by Nite-Mer Pikes is trance. Out there is definitely trance and progressive trance, for the most part. There may be a couple of minor exceptions, but it's a very trancy album. The most I would say is some tracks lean towards the progressive trance arena.

Id say one area that it leans toward more would be techno/breakbeat. Not 'progressive'. Plus Pikes / Santos are blatent 'house' tracks.

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Originally posted by D.Edge and the common usage of the term on here is?

Trance = Gouryella / Ferry Corsten OTT riff style 'trance'.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee Trance = Gouryella / Ferry Corsten OTT riff style 'trance'.

you dont have a fucking clue, go research trance music in general not just the dutch uplifting corsten style of trance. saying Avenue isnt trance is ridiculous.

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Originally posted by dj tek you dont have a fucking clue, go research trance music in general not just the dutch uplifting corsten style of trance. saying Avenue isnt trance is ridiculous.

What? Im saying thats the common conception on here, I dont happen to agree with it.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee Id say one area that it leans toward more would be techno/breakbeat. Not 'progressive'. Plus Pikes / Santos are blatent 'house' tracks.

Just because I haven't listened to it in a while, I will pull out my OTAB vinyl tonight and check out Pikes, in particular. Santos I may agree with you on, and that's probably why I never played it. The starecase mix of Vega is the only one worth listening to IMO. The original is so slow moving. I was really disappointed when I found out the version on Politics wasn't the original.

He has used more breaks recently (Reflections), but I don't particularly remember breaks on OTAB, but it may be the couple of tracks that I didn't play. Is Together We Will Conquer breaks? I don't remember. If it is it's more trance breaks than Nu skool or Florida.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee What? Im saying thats the common conception on here, I dont happen to agree with it.

thats what you think it is, not a fact. and who cares what a 'common conception' is. saying whats true is important. you blatantly said Avenue isnt a trance track, and im telling you to research some more before you make that kind of an assumtion. Paul van Dyk - Avenue is a definite trancer.

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Originally posted by Nite-Mer Just because I haven't listened to it in a while, I will pull out my OTAB vinyl tonight and check out Pikes, in particular. Santos I may agree with you on, and that's probably why I never played it. The starecase mix of Vega is the only one worth listening to IMO. The original is so slow moving. I was really disappointed when I found out the version on Politics wasn't the original. He has used more breaks recently (Reflections), but I don't particularly remember breaks on OTAB, but it may be the couple of tracks that I didn't play. Is Together We Will Conquer breaks? I don't remember. If it is it's more trance breaks than Nu skool or Florida.

yeh Vega is total breakbeat - its hardly slow moving ?? its pretty hectic and is the same bpm as the rest of the album. Yeh Together We Will Conquer has a whole lot of breakbeat in it.