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Originally posted by alanzo i 4m 1337 4nD jU R n07 ^^ the premise of this worthless thread

Worthless???

can't anyone respect each others opnion? Trancegenere don't like Reason he say it sucks, and i disagree, why does every fucking topic end up in a flame war if it's about Reason or cubase.

get a life all of you i say.

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Originally posted by Octanesyco Greetings. My name is Casey. You can call me Moose. -Moose

look massive, i'm entitled to my opinion, it's not like i said it sucked and ended it. I gave my reasons why it sucked, i made some valid points anmd if you can't respect them then don't post.

what the fucks wrong with this place, you can't even voice your opinion anymore. It should be called TranceCommunism.com

Everytime I post I get my balls busted, cause I speak my mind, If some of you use Reason and are offended by what I said then thats yoir problem, live with it. Seriously man, I'm afraid what would happen if I went around saying the audigy 2 or audiphile 2496 were shit soundcards, considering how many people own them. I'd probably get kicked off the site.

Look Reason isnt good, thats why its 200$ not 700$, like most professional hosts. Tell me one professional studio who uses reason as their main host. absolutely none! Sure a few guys on here made great tunes with it, doesn't mean it's good. When I talk about a host I look at it in terms of overall strength, not just making trance. Reason is like a crippled dog compared to the big hosts. It lacks fundamentals that are standard in todays audio world.

It has no vst support, jesus man! Do i have to write it out for you?

You wanna run around the net downloading crappy refills, go ahead, just don't talk shit.

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Originally posted by trancenrg69 look massive, i'm entitled to my opinion, it's not like i said it sucked and ended it. I gave my reasons why it sucked, i made some valid points anmd if you can't respect them then don't post. what the fucks wrong with this place, you can't even voice your opinion anymore. It should be called TranceCommunism.com Everytime I post I get my balls busted, cause I speak my mind, If some of you use Reason and are offended by what I said then thats yoir problem, live with it. Seriously man, I'm afraid what would happen if I went around saying the audigy 2 or audiphile 2496 were shit soundcards, considering how many people own them. I'd probably get kicked off the site. Look Reason isnt good, thats why its 200$ not 700$, like most professional hosts. Tell me one professional studio who uses reason as their main host. absolutely none! Sure a few guys on here made great tunes with it, doesn't mean it's good. When I talk about a host I look at it in terms of overall strength, not just making trance. Reason is like a crippled dog compared to the big hosts. It lacks fundamentals that are standard in todays audio world. It has no vst support, jesus man! Do i have to write it out for you? You wanna run around the net downloading crappy refills, go ahead, just don't talk shit.

You are the one who started trashing people for using reason and stating how shitty it was... Maybe it is for you, but not for them.... This is a dick measuring contest to see whose is bigger. Music for the most of us is fun and something we do as a hobby.. Soo if someone is happy with using reason. Why rain on their parade.....

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Dude think about it man. Go on Corbitts site. The guys studio is insane, he's got a G5, with the best synths money can buy. His setup destroys a pro tool rig . now why do u think he decided to post that track, obviously he wanted to show us that its possible to make good trance with reason. And what was the outcome. Incredible melody, great arragment, good ideas, but horrible mixing, effects, and overall sound quality.Why do u think the song suffered from these things. Do you think it's because Corbitt lacks the skills to mix and master? Highly doubtful considering his rig is incredible, no idiot would blow tens of thousands on that much gear if he was talented enough to use it. So the only other plausable explanation is that the program was at fault. That's what I'm stating, that the software is to blame. The software is a the accused party. Do u disagree, do u believe that corbitt is to fault, that he just sucks at making trance, but be warned, the wrong answer could end up hurting someone feelings and since u seem like a righteous individual I know you wouldnt want to do that. So let me know, who is to blame?

The crystal method use reason for drum loops, why is reason so shitty?

..and also fresh from badcompany made hits like elmstreet with reason..

otherwise this tread is lame.. igloo post pix from his masterpice. thats all folks..

theres another all vs. reason threads so keep posts there!

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Originally posted by trancenrg69 look massive, i'm entitled to my opinion, it's not like i said it sucked and ended it. I gave my reasons why it sucked, i made some valid points anmd if you can't respect them then don't post. what the fucks wrong with this place, you can't even voice your opinion anymore. It should be called TranceCommunism.com Everytime I post I get my balls busted, cause I speak my mind, If some of you use Reason and are offended by what I said then thats yoir problem, live with it. Seriously man, I'm afraid what would happen if I went around saying the audigy 2 or audiphile 2496 were shit soundcards, considering how many people own them. I'd probably get kicked off the site. Look Reason isnt good, thats why its 200$ not 700$, like most professional hosts. Tell me one professional studio who uses reason as their main host. absolutely none! Sure a few guys on here made great tunes with it, doesn't mean it's good. When I talk about a host I look at it in terms of overall strength, not just making trance. Reason is like a crippled dog compared to the big hosts. It lacks fundamentals that are standard in todays audio world. It has no vst support, jesus man! Do i have to write it out for you? You wanna run around the net downloading crappy refills, go ahead, just don't talk shit.

reason isnt a host, was never supposed to be a host either

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not a host? the fact that you don't believe it's good enough to be called a host, proves my point. So what it is then. It's obviously not a vst, but it has built in synths, samplers, drum machines, a sequencer, effects, wait so does cubase, logic, sonar, dp4, ableton, samp, orion, fruity, .... only major thing it doesn't have other than a million other other functions, is vst support. So yeah your right it's not a host, my bad, it's a shitty ass wannabe host.


Flashback, i'm sure many people use reason to program drum loops, scetch out ideas, write melodies, etc.. sort of like prodigy did on their labtop. But even Prodigy tranfered those ideas and loops to their pro tools setup. You can program drums tracks with a shitty tracker if you want. All your doing is rearraging pre recorded samples, wav files, single shots, etc... I actually lke Redrum , it's old school style, and very easy to program beats with. But yet again, why use that when theres much better drum samplers out there, like battery 2, rm4, dr-008, even fruity.

A track doesn't necessarily need to be good because it is maxed to the max in reason. But i'm sure that's not the case here. Here's "Kallocain" and "I Kill for You" if it interests anyone.

Endre, I agree with you totally. But I believe Reason has a threshold to what you can do. Your tracks are great but follow a more layed back mellow tone, which is fine for that Anjunabeats style trance where leads aren't overpowering a track. But Corbitt's track is a harder more melodic epic production (with that BIG sound)where leads stand up in the forefront and need to big , massive and loud. That's where reason takes a dives, cause the more you layer, the quicker the sound distorts and results in unwanted artifacts.

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Originally posted by trancenrg69 Endre, I agree with you totally. But I believe Reason has a threshold to what you can do. Your tracks are great but follow a more layed back mellow tone, which is fine for that Anjunabeats style trance where leads aren't overpowering a track. But Corbitt's track is a harder more melodic epic production (with that BIG sound)where leads stand up in the forefront and need to big , massive and loud. That's where reason takes a dives, cause the more you layer, the quicker the sound distorts and results in unwanted artifacts.

I havn't tryed this, so i would not know. But what you are saying is probably very true.