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Originally posted by tiesto14 back up.....u tryed to imply that American clubs were some inferior to UK and European clubs because WE have clubkids in America....read your first post! So i proved u wrong u tool...

don't try and change the subject with personal attacks fool


no point in trying to bring the euro club scene into my argument because i've never partied over there, but i think that one thing is certain...europe does have a healthier scene then the united states...

and i agree with krysta that a lot of it has to do with a social stigma put on EDM by the large amount of young candyraver kids that frequent the events...

and lets face it, its not like most of them probably really enjoy the music more than anyone else here. but i think the point is pretty obvious...you can't win this one with personal attacks...

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Originally posted by tiesto14 read her first post..she was implying that candy ravers are part of the problem with clubs.....

Umm, my post was aimed at Lee.



And, Lee, maybe they don't get all the 'media attention' because they operate legitimately and follow rules?

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Originally posted by Krysta_101 We have the idiotic club kids. I think this was clearly implied. Obviously, you are inable to ascertain this.

dude get over your self...trying to over intelectualize everything.

The UK and Germany also have the idiotic club kids and they seem to be doing well with their clubs...did you ever stop to think - maybe YOUR type of crowd is the problem?

I mean what arrogance you have to feel that YOU should be in a club and they should not...

For the record i am not and never was a clubkid...

But i can say first hand that clubkids made the NYC scene the BEST it ever was (circa 1995)....If it wasnt for clubkids NYC would of sucked in NYC...they made Limelight, Tunnel, Twilo and Shelter.....so ya know.

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 do you feel these had any financial problems? Did they regularly pack it in? they needed more media attention right .

no money was ROLLING in.....even on Wednesday nights,

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Originally posted by ESMdjm600 oh but the answer to your question... y is edm dead in america? the same reason y soccer is dead in america.... NO COMMERCIALS!

Commercials? Quaint idea. I actually think making a television channel that plays strict edm would be a nice addition. The only problem with that is that most edm videos are for cheesy songs. But with channels like Fuse and MTV, people are more interested in actually watching their music (if that makes any sense whatsoever).

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Originally posted by tiesto14 dude get over your self...trying to over intelectualize everything. The UK and Germany also have the idiotic club kids and they seem to be doing well with their clubs...did you ever stop to think - maybe YOUR type of crowd is the problem? I mean what arrogance you have to feel that YOU should be in a club and they should not... For the record i am not and never was a clubkid... But i can say first hand that clubkids made the NYC scene the BEST it ever was (circa 1995)....If it wasnt for clubkids NYC would of sucked in NYC...they made Limelight, Tunnel, Twilo and Shelter.....so ya know.

so if you weren't a clubkid either...then as you put it, "your kind" of the people that were the problem as well...so i really don't see your point...

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Originally posted by Floorfiller and i agree with krysta that a lot of it has to do with a social stigma put on EDM by the large amount of young candyraver kids that frequent the events...

AND thats why i posted pics from Europe clubs/festivals with candy kids...showing its not just America...so if they are doing fine with those ckids why isnt America?...maybe its not them and it is the people who bitch about them.

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Originally posted by UWM Umm, my post was aimed at Lee.

sorry bro

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Originally posted by Krysta_101 Commercials? Quaint idea. I actually think making a television channel that plays strict edm would be a nice addition. The only problem with that is that most edm videos are for cheesy songs. But with channels like Fuse and MTV, people are more interested in actually watching their music (if that makes any sense whatsoever).

i was jokin... its dead cuz of this eliteist mentallity we have in the usa

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Originally posted by Floorfiller so if you weren't a clubkid either...then as you put it, "your kind" of the people that were the problem as well...so i really don't see your point...

Forget it....too confusing to explain over this..lol

this thread should hang itself....

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