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Originally posted by fissipissi n0bben bastard listen, you dare insulting someone who is listening to electronic music( no i dont pull rap,hip-hop into the electronic genre) ) on a trance board? you can stick your fucking rap,hip-hop music right up your ass and piss off ...rap,hip-hop listeners are not welcome here !!!!!

Sorry i hate rap, but hip hop is awsome

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Originally posted by fissipissi rap,hip-hop just as music = garbage rap,hip-hop fans = they have no clue about real music

First there is hop hop wich is good, i dont , nor ever listening to that non sense shit whats on the radio or mtv. Try to dig deep into hip hop, there is really good hip hop like :

Jurassic 5
Tribe called Quest
Busdriver
Rdioactive

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I just saw Talib Kweli live this weekend, and he was awesome. Check out the track "Get By"

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litlebit of sample what Busdrivers lyrics are like

I am a bus driver and it's four in the morning
And I'm pressing out my clothes beside my bed
Fourteen years been on the job
And with many miles behind
Still I'm up at 3:30 to make sure I'm there on time
My car gets me along just fine
To and from the station
But my castle is this Houston Metro bus
My first stop is Ashbury
The sign's been gone for years
All the same the people wait
'Cause they know that I'll be there
(Chorus)
What would you say
If I told you that I won't be by to day
Would you say that
I'm just a bus driver
And what do I know
Just a bus driver
And what do I know
Just a bus driver
And what do I know
I'm always there by 5:15
And lately I've been early
Judith likes to be in early to the bank
And she gives me conversation
And a token good for riding
And she's happy all alone
And then there's Charles in retail sales
And I hope they pay him well
For all the work that young man does
'Cause I've never seen the inside of a custom refrigerator
But I know that he's the first and last one there
(repeat chorus)
And I wonder how this world would be
If I was never here
To drive this bus around from Ashbury to Main
I suppose this town would be the same
With one bus less exhaust
But that bank and retail store
They just wouldn't be the same
But what can I see
From the limited confines of my bus driving seat
Only me
And I'm just a bus driver
And what do I know
I'm just a bus driver
And what do I know
Just a bus driver
And what do I know
Just a bus driver
So don't believe that
Just a bus driver
Well don't believe that
Just a bus driver
Well don't believe that
We're all just bus drivers
And it's time to go home
-lyrics submitted by Corey Cossentino ([email protected])


and

Im just here to hold your hand when you die
and to show you around imaginary places
puttin many lumps on my bloody stump
edible habits so I bit the perfect circle
die in your sleep with the sky at your feet
ill shoot you when your happy on the day that you will find peace
how did you do it, i dont know, im ok
every person i know is a secret sorta agent
cuz im accused of lewd conducts
So far hard to rape her prom side
any kind of rumor for em, may they rest to put me in a loony bin
a funny farm a coo-coo but they need a villian

Im just here to hold your hand when you die
there is not a sicker person that can do it better
no need to skip it in my ecosystem
but in the audience of me being evil christian
HMO know how I hate him so
but he charged me for a halo
but im on a scavenger hunt for a map with a chunk
of a sky mirror Ill go crazy with a mud pie
I play dead songs on the silk screen
Iron my shirt it is a chill dream
It is on to lead away to the stair well till we gut him in it
straight up from the center finally fair-well

Im just here to hold your hand when you die
and to give your assault rifle a bannana clip
flow in the dark when i stroll in the park
giving everybody informative pamphletes
no sign of life for as far as i can see
everybody´s just charred meat up in the car seat
eat shit and die to the secret spy
cuz i have this funny feeling that im being watched
24 hour survailance
money or power or ailments
whyd they send the medical the he shimmered me the hammer

it was way too much you coulda went and had 200

Im just here to hold your hand when you die
Psycho better cause trouble runnin for your soft spot
late market closed, and the irk on her nose
turned into a deadly gas flowin through the air ducts
shes had no love for the thought that she was
she doesnt love me cuz I dont have the right hair cut
Im misunderstood, I just face it, Im no good
but I will not appologize for anything that I say
My name is Mr Busdriver
this is the producer Paris
we did not embarass to admit that we were purchasing a bit
of our own imaginary place

kids.. if you want to piss off your parents
show interest in the arts

kids.. if you really want to piss off your parents
buy real estate in an imaginary place.. oh yes

ok ok, alright, um... yea..
down... low...

- lots of scratching -

gotta do my shout outs now.. (please do)

Im just here to hold your hand when you die
Paris and Daddy care, theyll also be there too

Im just here to hold your hand when you die
Unless you get that mums the word will help you

Im just here to hold your hand when you die
Feel the fellowship announced everyone will help you

Im just here to hold your hand when you die
Shoulda been an empire hip hop clan too

Im just here to hold your hand to die
Im just here to hold your hand when you
Just here to hold your hand..
when you die..

my favorite: Mary J. Blige - Beautiful (Black Star Mix)

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Yes you are (Sometimes you just meet someone and you just completely...) You're so beautiful Here we go... come on Absolutely fantastic, Now you're near Absolutely fantastic, In my life Fantastic, All my fears Fantastic, Beautiful Fantastic, Come to me Fantastic, Now I am Fantastic, Someone watching over me Fantastic [Mos Def] I dreamt that I could paint you with words But there were no colors bright enough Black or white enough Blue or green enough, it didn't mean enough You are the star that touched the earth Shine bright for all eyes to see Radiate and touched me Now I'm shining like you do It was dim before I knew you Bright light for weeping eyes to get used to Trust who, that's some shit to adjust to Soon as you relax, they ease back and cold bust you Love murdered in Brooklyn, sound the alarm But you still remain calm, my passion is unarmed I tried to practice my whole life tactics But in your clutch and your touch, my armor just collapses Sun's bliss breeds obliviousness So recollect sweet breath still wet on my lips My prayer's this: Go protect my beloved and keep her covered From the valley to the summer like the land undiscovered (like the stars) [Hook] [Mary] Beautiful, now you're near in my life all my fear Beautiful, come to me, now I am, someone watching over me [Black Star] Like the stars outnumbered, you are so beautiful I do all my best so I could be true to you Ain't nothing in this word that I wouldn't do for you ?? everything usual Like the stars outnumbered, you are so beautiful Where I stand, understand who I am, that makes me a man [Talib Kweli] You know what, they say that beauty's in the eye of the beholder So I use my third, and now I love the silent like a boulder Want to be with you as I get older And that's my word, sure as I stand on my ancestors' shoulders You see through my drama and my world like a stage Not the same years but living in the same age Just the quality, not the quantity Fllow me, definitely Far from probably, got to be You and me, beautifully, thick like pieces of the man I used to be Now I'm back cause of what you do to me You like my reflection, better half to my whole Like lyrics to the beat, you the matre for my soul The breath for my life, my sister and my lover Used to have cold feet, now you the one under my covers I ignore your aura but it grabbed me by the hand Like the moon pulled the tide and the tide pulled the sand [Hook] Go ahead, Mary, baby, sing your song OOh, so beautiful That dream that it would be so beautiful I wanna say that I love you All the love you give, all the love you give to me All my days and nights were lonely And it's so beautiful And now I have a friend that I can talk to, yeah Boy, you're so beautiful [Mos Def and Kweli be switching back and forth like a crossfader] Because you're fruitful, beautiful Smart, lovable, huggable, doable like art Suitable to be part of the cosmos With my eyes closed, I see you clearly Combined lifetimes with like minds, your lovelight shines Bright the apple of my eyesight The tender kiss that whets my appetite My mighty Aphrodite, the flame that ignite me Your name just excite me Your eyes so alive they aright me Cause you are so beautiful You don't even know the length I would go To make absolutely sho' you is respected and protected And never neglected, I hope my prayers is accapted That you always will be watched over And never rocked over And if you need me to, I'll stop over To check on you, I'd never jet on you I know a lot of foolish cats that slept on you But what I'm gonna do is be totally committed If you need me I'll be hotter than the New York Mennen With a hundred percentage, from the start to the finish Cause the vibe you give leave me so replenished It's a new beginning, this is serious business Got my heart and soul in it It's the way that I'm living Let it be known that I'm devoted, it's always going to prevail The newly risen, truely living universal for real It's like that y'all, and ya don't stop

talib kweli, mos def, common... they are all super smoothe and are the epitome of good hiphop.

also really into Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc. lately. the vid kicks a well. am i the only one that think the melody part totally samples U2 - Staring At The Sun? good stuff.

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Originally posted by fissipissi hip-hop,rap is neither good nor intelligent ...its not even music but annoying noise in most cases

thats so...ignorant.

Atmosphere!

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Originally posted by fissipissi
hip-hop,rap is neither good nor intelligent ...its not even music but annoying noise in most cases

I don't necessarily like hip-hop all the time either, but I can at least respect it as a musical genre. To each his own man.

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Most of my favorites like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, the Roots, Common, Tribe Called Quest, X-Clan, Kool Keith, Arrested Development, Jurassic 5, Black Starr, Gang Starr, Afrika Bam, Immortal Technique, Jungle Brothers, J-Live, J-Zone, Deltron 3030, Dead Prez, The Coup, Spearhead and so on have already been mentioned, but how can you have an intelligent hip hop thread without mentioning Public Enemy or KRS-ONE & Boogie Down Productions? All of the Public Enemy albums (including Chuck D's solo disc and their recent stuff, believe it or not) are worth buying, the production work is amazing, not to mention the generally intelligent and thought provoking lyrics. The same goes for KRS-ONE, although the first BDP album is a little bit suspect with regards to the lyrical content.

I haven't seen anyone mention De La Soul either, they're mandatory listening if you're looking to get into intelligent, socially conscious old school stuff. I'd also recommend Paris. He can be a little bit over the top at times, but his albums are still very much worth getting. He's also handling production on the upcoming Public Enemy album, so it's definitely something to look forward to. I'd also recommend anything from Eric B. & Rakim - whilst I don't know if you could call it intelligent, the Rakim is probably the best MC ever in my view.

As for the people making snide comments about hip hop played on the radio, a majority of the artists discussed in this thread generally aren't given good radio play; they're often snubbed by radio and the industry in general; in essence, they don't chart. Anyhow, check out any of the artists mentioned; they're all worth listening to.

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Originally posted by fissipissi your making a fool of yourself if you sympathisize with noise roaring and in many cases called monkey music =rap,hip-hop on a trance board

wtf u racist piece of shit, there is quality in all music loook deeper you uninformed idiot.

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Originally posted by fissipissi no i just told you what many ppl think about rap : monkey music but thats not the point... no promotion for this kind of "music" << can be accepted here

says who?

and how come the moderators are not moving it?

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper And let me guess, you complain about people saying trance "sounds all the same" and "trance is stupid noise"? Hypocrite.

well all genres sounds the same at first but its the attention to notes, melody, structure and detail thats important in developing a taste.

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Originally posted by Plastick Good, Intelligent = Underground stuff?

how do we define intelligent?

i think eminem is intelligent, i mean he is very creative. em may be immature and say stupidness but that doesn't make him less intelligent.

the roots are intelligent also, they might not be as creative as eminem lyrically but they are like a rock band and play their own instruments too. they are positive ppl also.

what makes a rapper intelligent?

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