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nchs09
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Originally posted by basd
So the above does qualify as techno, but Hawtin does not? Good grief. Are you even aware of the earlier works of Hawtin, and the fact he's not in the least limited to the minimal stuff he's been known for to a larger crowd in the last few years?
yes old hawtin is pure filth.... now he plays minimal..

every ONCE in a while a recent set of his apears with hard techno...


but yes the above qualifys as techy and techno not all tracks are techno


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Originally posted by Cobalt
Also, a question to the techheads out there: where does one draw the line of tech-house? Sunshine and D-Clash? Aril Brikha and Jaguar?

Tough call. The set I've posted earlier in this thread (the Curtis Maranda one) is techno to me, but I think a lot of people that will hear it would disagree.

I'm getting the impression lately that a lot of people have a much narrower definition of techno than myself.

p.s. Sunshine and D-Clash belong in the garbage bin Jaguar is pure techno to me, but there are probably enough people that think otherwise. Aril Brikha is just quality. Techno to me as well, but probably tech-house to other people.

Having said that, I don't really know what I WOULD define as tech house. John Acquaviva probably.


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quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
yes old hawtin is pure filth.... now he plays minimal..

every ONCE in a while a recent set of his apears with hard techno...


but yes the above qualifys as techy and techno not all tracks are techno

Minimal is techno to me as well.


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way to many too list.

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yes old hawtin is pure filth.... now he plays minimal..


wtf? he's been making minimal tech right from the start..

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p.s. Sunshine and D-Clash belong in the garbage bin

Heh, perhaps, but come on now, I listen to trance.

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Jaguar is pure techno to me

This always puzzled me, because everyone claims Jaguar is techno, but some elements seem quite more tech-housey to me: the instrumental percussion, the tropical riff, the disco-housey synthesized strings. But then again, I'm no techno expert, so I might be off.

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Heh, perhaps, but come on now, I listen to trance.

I'll let it slip this time

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This always puzzled me, because everyone claims Jaguar is techno, but some elements seem quite more tech-housey to me: the instrumental percussion, the tropical riff, the disco-housey synthesized strings. But then again, I'm no techno expert, so I might be off.

As I said, my definitions of techno (if I've even got any, don't ask me to write them down because I can't) are pretty broad compared to others, judging from what I've been reading up to now. Could be a reason why. Besides, I wouldn't call myself a real techno expert either, there are lots of people that know far more about it.


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quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
This always puzzled me, because everyone claims Jaguar is techno, but some elements seem quite more tech-housey to me: the instrumental percussion, the tropical riff, the disco-housey synthesized strings. But then again, I'm no techno expert, so I might be off.


it's detroit techno. the guys from do town have been making shit like that since 1986 at least. the strings aren't disco-housey. disco-house strings are filtered funk or direct samples of riffs out of disco songs. those 'disco-housey synthesized strings' are a throwback of early detroit techno.

just listen to this track from derrick may made in '92 or this track made by kev, may, and juan in '86. they're just sort of wailing synth strings that detroit producers have used in their techno to add sort of a futuristic and soulful feel to their music.

hey i know. go listen to the Mayday remix of Jaguar. Hahah. in fact, here's a sample of it. even more disco housey strings! lol. but yeah, obviously he heard the track and said "whoa, i did something exactly like this 10 years ago, here, let me do it how it's supposed to be done." right? but seriously, if anyone knows how to tweak those futuristic soul strings just the right way, it's Derrick May. he pretty much mastered that aspect of detroit techno. in fact he has some ambient tracks with nothing but those disco housey strings like....THIS ONE!

as for the rest, how exactly would a "tropical riff" if jaguar had one, make it house? and why would percussion make it house? 99.999999999 percennt of techno tracks are built on percussion.

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quote:
Originally posted by basd
Minimal is techno to me as well.
meh i just call it hard minimal doesnt compare techno wise for me to picotto and shit..


my first love was techno i remember listening for the first time Mauro picotto live @ trance energy 01 i think.. sickness

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way to many too list.



wtf? he's been making minimal tech right from the start..
i dont know much about his productions but he used to play hard.

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Another fine example of a tune exactly fitting my taste:

Portion Reform - Shift worker [DOWNWARDS 001]

Too bad the rest of the 2x12" doesn't come close in terms of quality.. Don't really feel like buying it just for this one.




that song is .

I hadnt ever heard minimal before this thread due to lack of access. If it all sounds like that kinda buzzing sound then it gets a thumbs up from me. On the other hand i didnt like the majority of the other stuff in the thread so i think il stick with normal techno

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that song is .

I hadnt ever heard minimal before this thread due to lack of access. If it all sounds like that kinda buzzing sound then it gets a thumbs up from me.

Sample wasn't meant as an example of minimal, more as an example of my preferences in techno flavour


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John Tejada ftw

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quote:
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Sample wasn't meant as an example of minimal, more as an example of my preferences in techno flavour


Ah ok. Hmmm cant say i really see the greatness in the other samples and stuff in the thread but maybe they will grow on me over time. I know that when I was only into trance i heard techno and i was like wtf, but now even though im not exactly in the know, I prefer to listen to a good techno set then any amount of trance

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