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Originally posted by spitty i've only been to NYC 3 times. once in september, once in november and once in march, but each time it was colder there then here. toront, being surrounded by the great lakes, is moderated in temperature. nyc..is just motherfucking freezing.

New York is on the ocean. Temperature moderation by Atlantic ocean > The Great Lakes.

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Originally posted by raveed its ridiculous to think that a man who is considered one of the pioneers in spreading the popularity of dance music around clubbing communities the world over would let weather dictate where he plays. Dont you think that after all these years hes a little more er professional than that toronto has a very active clubbing culture which can be compared to any other city in north america. Are you saying he would risk losing out on a significant fan base just to avoid being let down by his jacket for a day??? He used to frequent toronto quite often up till 2001. Im sure his not coming is a little more complicated than that. He plays in germany in january, im sure he could handle toronto in june

PVD is expensive. Perhaps more expensive than Tiesto. At least two years ago he was from what I heard. Plus he has a very tight schedule. But I am pretty sure that after couple more threads like this some promoter will decide to bring him. I remember how Themporal Rhythm stood up for the challenge and it was only terribly bad luck that he cancelled his show due to SARS.

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Fuck PVD, Fuck him right in the ear! I refuse to support those that don't support us. I will not see him, ever, anywhere, at anytime, even if he would play a set in my backyard. Any overatures made to Toronto now would be too little too late IMO.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

Seeing him spin was a totally different experience than his CDs. I wish he would come here.

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Originally posted by INTRANCE +1, I never heard any horror stories with him and TO

I've been to his shows at the Kool Haus in 03 and Guv in 04.. (or was that 04 and 05?) they weren't that bad at all, the places were rammed full of people and everyone had a good time! or at least I thought they did...

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Originally posted by TranceGrooves Folks one thing to keep in mind is that it is not that easy to book Djs. specially Djs that are in top 10 rankings. there are contratcs fees legal issues schedules and crap of load of other things involved. it is not just a matter of sending off an email and the dj would come in flying. oh and lets not forget club politics and booking agents / agencies politics with certain clubs just have patience

everyone on the western board was wondering why tiesto had not been in vancouver for over two years.....later we find out that an events company had rights to throwing the party and they would only do one venue which wasn't playing any edm for a long while. Now they bring him in bump the price up and still sells out. I think it might be the same thing here in toronto. I agree with trancegrooves though that there are a lot of crap to deal with getting the top ten to tour everywhere in a year given there are only 52 weekends in a year.

my best guess is that it might be a money issue, does pvd have a forum on his website? maybe there would be some answers there for why hes not in toronto yet.

patience i have but only for so long

i really want to see him

But if he doesnt want to support TO, then he gets no support from me.

I don't think its a personal hatred for Toronto or the fact that he doesn't want to "support TO". I'm sure he likes some cities over others like we all do but I find it hard to believe he'd boycott a city based on 5 or 6 visits..all of which have been successful in my recollection. I bet my two cents that its bureaucracy and politics between TO promoters and PvD's North American management.

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Originally posted by ChadVanDyk I bet my two cents that its bureaucracy and politics between TO promoters and PvD's North American management.

Agreed.

All of you complaining and griping about how if "he doesn't support Toronto, then I won't support him, etc.." I wonder how many of you have asked him personally if this was the case.

Ah...The Politics of Dancing...

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dog's shit ..ha!.

PVD was, is, and according to his consistency, will be a great dj/producer for as many years as he wants to, unlike others who have lost it along the way. Although I've only seen him live twice (KH 03, Sensation White 04), those two times were memorable displays of talent and superb music. Hat's off to the gentleman of EDM.

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