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Originally posted by slkvin Either way im going to be drunk and having a blast with neinerlove and sweetcandygirl so those rich OC chicks in Gucci and Prada can kiss my ass!!!

+1. ill see ya there! i know for sure i will see michelle and kris. and i know ill find most of the other TAs that are going too.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

This is KawiZX636, btw for those that know me, I was finally able to remember the password for my old account so im using my original one LOL. Ive met you Gehzumt @ the On Broadway show, I was the guy hanging out with Kris all night.

C U There

Dave T makes a lot of sense here as he usually does. I doubt that there will be that many fake people there, at least I hope not. Of course it's supply and demand, but I wonder who's driving up the prices ? Giant ? or the lounge ?

But just becasue somebody is financially comfortable doesn't necessariy make them fake, not interested or notknowledgeable in the scene.

damn giant is the organizer. i hesitate to go to the downtown la show. if i go, i was planning to buy the ticket at the door. but, i am afraid they may jack up the price since it will be another historic moment in shady downtown. i do not want my money go to these bastards.

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Originally posted by slkvin This is KawiZX636, btw for those that know me, I was finally able to remember the password for my old account so im using my original one LOL. Ive met you Gehzumt @ the On Broadway show, I was the guy hanging out with Kris all night. C U There

rofl now i know who ya are. but we met at armin, markus, and boris at 4th&B. well then ill see ya there. i actually forgot what you look like. lol. its been a while!

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

All this really urks me because it's happening at a time when the scene is still struggling to get back on its feet. There will be a day down the road where charging such high prices will be acceptable. When the scene is strong. When people are fighting over tickets week in and week out.

But right now, the scene should be inviting and prices reasonable. Club owners and organizer SO need to see this!! (example: Ten15 in SF charges $20 minimum at the door no matter the night -- at least when I have gone -- and it seriously needs to drop those prices on non-big nights to make the place more inviting. Or make it scale pricing w/o the need for guestlist signup. eg. $7 before 10:45pm, then $10 -12 before midnight. $15 between midnight and 2am, then $10 or less afterwords. You make the place more inviting, more peopel show up, and you make up costs difference in the bars.)

If it was a huge multi-thousand person event, then I can see ticket prices getting higher and higher because there's plenty of room and plenty of opportunity to get one of the cheaper tickets (think Monster Massive in LA or Popsicle/LoveFest Afterarty in SF....hell, think AvB and ATB down in LA. Going to be way more than 4,000 peeps flowing through the night).

If the DJ was just ludicrously priced, then OK. But I doubt it's necessary to charge $100 for Armin on a Thursday night. Hell, when he or like Ferry plays in SF on a non-weekend night, tickets are usually $15 or $20!!!

I wish you would have paid attention to your Econ 101 class. This venue is NOT for the little guy. That's what you have Spundae, 4th&B, Avalon, etc.. for!!

You don't want to pay that price, then you should drive a little farther to Spundae. As for the sound, I know the promoters brought it in for Deep Dish and it was incredible. TURBO SOUND panels, set up by sound engineers, takes less than 2 hours!!

Stupidity irritates me.

As for the shoes, don't worry. For the guys, if you wanna get some hot ass and mingle with some of the finest girls in town, then dress to impress. If you wanna dance, wear your puma's or diesels. Just come and have fun. I know the venue. They will not be sticklers unless your wearing your Nike tennis shoes that double for your workout shoes.

And unfortunately, if you can't afford it, then that sucks and maybe you should be thinking more about your future finances then a fucking $100 ticket. But do you complain that a Mercedes Benz is "too expensive for the little guy so FUCK them??""" Wake up.

MW

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Originally posted by marketwizard Stupidity irritates me.

well then you would agree with what Dave said about it hurting the scene.

p0wned

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

Halo your correct, someone finacial status doesnt make them fake, not interested or not knowledgeable. So let me edit my post. I was trying to convey my dislike of the attitude that is prevelent in that particular area with many people. I wasnt attacking people who are wealthy, I wish I had more money!

The effect is, that Giant, the lounge or both realize that due to the location and demographic, they can bump the price as high as they want and they know it will sell out eitherway. Good Business, Bad Karma!

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Originally posted by slkvin I couldnt agree more with Dave. $100 bucks for a show really only hurts the real Armin fans! Myself included because I acutually paid it!!! Lets face it this club is going to be filled with about 400 fake ass people who are just showing up because money isnt an issue and they have nothing else to do on a thursday night! Or because they heard from a friend of a friend that this DJ is famous! Its not about the music or contributing support to the scene or even liking Armin. Other then the TA's and other random trance fans, I got the feeling this club is going to be filled with the "beautiful people" of OC who are more worried about looking good and saying they were there that night, then having a great trance experience! Either way im going to be drunk and having a blast with neinerlove and sweetcandygirl so those rich OC chicks in Gucci and Prada can kiss my ass!!!

And not letting people wear Nike's at a TRANCE event is just plain fucking stupid. I'm sorry, it is. And it's compeltely elitist.

Every club I know of around Cali that has dress codes drops it on big nights, especially trance nights.

If I lived in SoCal I would probably still avoid this event just because I know it's going to be full of drunk idiots trying to impress everyone around them and being pushy, rude, and spilling drinks all over everyone at the same time.

BTW, I got a 98 in Economics. There's a lot more to economics than a quick buck. Especially in the EDM industry where it's largely ran on passion. Thank you.

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Originally posted by DaveT All this really urks me because it's happening at a time when the scene is still struggling to get back on its feet. ..... If it was a huge multi-thousand person event, then I can see ticket prices getting higher and higher because there's plenty of room and plenty of opportunity to get one of the cheaper tickets (think Monster Massive in LA or Popsicle/LoveFest Afterarty in SF....hell, think AvB and ATB down in LA. Going to be way more than 4,000 peeps flowing through the night). If the DJ was just ludicrously priced, then OK. But I doubt it's necessary to charge $100 for Armin on a Thursday night. Hell, when he or like Ferry plays in SF on a non-weekend night, tickets are usually $15 or $20!!!

Bust out the calculator. Let's assume Armin charges $xxx. A 1500 capacity venue needs to charge $35. But for the same revenue, a 500 capacity venue needs to charge.......$105. Wow. Simple math is so amazing.

"MONSTER FUCKING MASSIVE"???? Keep those lollypop sucking, rolled out kids the hell out of my scene and bring me "The Beautiful OC" WOMEN!!!!!!! Shit. What a fucking joke. Yah, I think the "motive" of the people behind this show is to keep a certain element out. And in fact, it's these successful people that will bring the scene "back" if it was ever alive to begin with. The reason "the scene" never got off and "died" is because the fans were always on drugs and unemployed, with smelly ass, ripped up, hippy-wanna-be clothes that made the whole thing look like an SF drug party. The ONLY way the scene will pick up is if real, successful, well-dressed, responsible, alcohol drinking adults SUPPORT IT.

Stupidity reallly irritates me. You should suck on your lollypop and leave the playin to the players.

MW