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Originally posted by Glade776 You're wrong. He didn't make the first official remix.

yes he did, 1988, Wee Papa Girl Rappers. He took away most of the music and used the original vocals to create something different.

Futhermore his Reese Project, E-Dancer and Inner city are containing sounds and patterns that are still used today.

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Originally posted by basvh yes he did, 1988, Wee Papa Girl Rappers. He took away most of the music and used the original vocals to create something different.

The first remix, or one of the first, was made in 1981.

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Originally posted by Glade776 The first remix, or one of the first, was made in 1981.

you are probally talking about some Coldcut things, but that were more re-edits then really re-mixes. That first remix of saunderson is the blueprint of todays remixes and so you can say he created the first ever remix.

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Originally posted by basvh you are probally talking about some Coldcut things, but that were more re-edits then really re-mixes. That first remix of saunderson is the blueprint of todays remixes and so you can say he created the first ever remix.

I'm not talking about Coldcut.

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Originally posted by Glade776 I'm not talking about Coldcut.

saying only yes and no isn't really constructive in a thread like this.

It's true that in the past a lot of people claimed the first remix but again that was more copy pasting work and can be more seen as re-edits. KS took it to another level.

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Originally posted by basvh saying only yes and no isn't really constructive in a thread like this. It's true that in the past a lot of people claimed the first remix but again that was more copy pasting work and can be more seen as re-edits. KS took it to another level.

This wasn't copy pasting work

BT << Listen to he's old stuff, this guy was really ahead of he's time.
THE ORB
Brian Eno
Michael Jarre
Orbital
Oakenfold
Sasha & Digweed
Depeche Mode
New Order
Kraftwerk

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Originally posted by PETRAN BT still sucks though!!!!!Ok, maybe he is not so bad, but in general terms he is...and he is definitely not a f*cking pioneer by any means...cheesy cheap cu-base production with a bunch of vocalists thrown in just to bring the money.The only good album i can think of is "Ima" and that was mediocre compared to other 90s EDM/IDM/Proggy/Electronica giants like Bola,Aphex Twin and Global Communications.

You should be laughed out of the building for showing that you don't have the first clue on what defines good production. If you ever read an interview with BT where he breaks down what he does when producing a track, you'd realise that he puts more effort into getting unique sounds than almost anyone else. Even when he uses software, he custom programs plug-ins and extensions to get his own sounds. And just fucking listen to his stuff. If you call that cheap or cheesy production you're either aiming to be deliberately controversial or are deaf.

All that said, he was also instrumental in pioneering the epic house sound with Sasha in the mid-90s, which would reflect on the development of progressive trance.

Those who said he invented trance or the breakdown are fucking idiots though. He's also far from the most influential artist in EDM- he's a long way from being the most influential artist in trance or house. But that's been typical of a lot of names mentioned in this thread.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You should be laughed out of the building for showing that you don't have the first clue on what defines good production. If you ever read an interview with BT where he breaks down what he does when producing a track, you'd realise that he puts more effort into getting unique sounds than almost anyone else.

Got any links?

id love to read some as i find that kinda stuff interesting.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You should be laughed out of the building for showing that you don't have the first clue on what defines good production. If you ever read an interview with BT where he breaks down what he does when producing a track, you'd realise that he puts more effort into getting unique sounds than almost anyone else. Even when he uses software, he custom programs plug-ins and extensions to get his own sounds. And just fucking listen to his stuff. If you call that cheap or cheesy production you're either aiming to be deliberately controversial or are deaf. All that said, he was also instrumental in pioneering the epic house sound with Sasha in the mid-90s, which would reflect on the development of progressive trance. Those who said he invented trance or the breakdown are fucking idiots though. He's also far from the most influential artist in EDM- he's a long way from being the most influential artist in trance or house. But that's been typical of a lot of names mentioned in this thread.

I will give him credit for quality of his produtions.
But his music is pop music and it has its limitations.
For the style he is making I think Junkie XL for example is even better than him.
Both in terms of musicianship and in terms of quality of production.

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Originally posted by globalelectro I will just not go down to your level. I like some of the ones you like, but i dont like many like Orbital, Vangelis, Jean Michel Jarre and Kraftwerk.

you must have a very odd taste to not like Orbital yet still somehow end up at a trance website

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Originally posted by harriz I will give him credit for quality of his produtions. But his music is pop music and it has its limitations. For the style he is making I think Junkie XL for example is even better than him. Both in terms of musicianship and in terms of quality of production.

Fibonacci Sequence pop music?