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Originally posted by iammesol Ok... why don't you take a look at Axwell's schedule right now. * 24/08 Cream@Amnesia,Ibiza,Spain * 26/08 MinistryOfSound,London, UK * 26/08 Subliminal@Creamfields, UK * 31/08 1234 Club, Montreal, Canada * 01/09 Soundbar, Chicago, US * 02/09 Supperclub, San Fransisco, US * 03/09 Nikki Beach, Miami, US * 14/09 Cream@Amnesia,Ibiza,Spain * 16/09 Cadeski Manaje, St Petersburg, Russia * 23/09 Positiva@The Cross, London, UK * 29/09 Villa, Toulon, France * 30/09 Amazonia, Malta How bout next time you have to travel that much, with the only time to sleep being your time on planes... search for all the obscure songs and perfect them into your sets. I swear sometimes some of the people on this forum just like to hear themselves talk.

They can't listen to promos on their laptop/mp3 player/cd player while on the plane? Granted I find it tough to look for new tracks all the time because of work and other things, but it's not like these guys have a 9-5 job

Not trying to defend Clovis or anything, but think about it, he probably doesn't even have to physically look for that much music anymore. Get a stack of promo cds and listen to them. I'm sure he can decide right off the bat if a track is going to work or not.

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If you look at that schedule as well you'll notice he doesn't fly from Europe to America for each gig either.
On that one it's 3 x UK in a row, 4 x America in a row etc.

I'm sure they can have VERY stressy periods, but firstly DJing around the world probably is a lot of TAers dream.
At least I would never complain and I doubt the DJs do either.
Living of DJing is based on a big interest, so you can't really call it a job in that way. Because it's based on having fun, making a living of it isn't really something you can foresee in your young age.
Same with professional football players.

Anyway, here is an example of a set where a trance producer plays a lot of his own stuff.

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01. Opus III - It's A Fine Day (Leon Bolier Remix) 02. Fred Baker vs. Nyram - Confirmation 03. Karen Overton - Your Loving Arms (Menno de Jong Remix?) 04. Leon Bolier pres. Surpresa - Poseidon 05. Leon Bolier pres. Surpresa - Back In The Days 06. Push - The Legacy (Club Mix) 07. E-Craig - Home (Vocal Mix) 08. Carlos - The Silmarillia (Leon Bolier Remix) 09. ID (Leon Bolier production) 10. Utah Saints - Lost Vagueness (Oliver Lieb's Main Mix) 11. Bolier & Coenraad - The Mighty Ducks 12. Bolier & Coenraad - ID 13. Airbase - Escape 14. Reflekt feat. Deline Bass - Need To Feel Loved (The Thrillseekers Remix) 15. Leon Bolier pres. Inner Stories - Beyond 16. Airwave - Alone In The Dark

No need to say who the DJ was. Anyway this was on Saturday, I was there and it rocked. Why ? He spins like eight of his own beloved productions (which I love) in addition to some classics and a few other rocking tunes from the past weeks and months.
You might think eight out of sixteen tunes sounds like a little overdose ? Well you don't complain when you experience it, because this can't be described it words.

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Above & Beyond pres. Unkle Petter - So Many Faces
Oakenfold - Southern Sun (Tiësto "Dutch" Remix)
AvB vs Laura Jansen - Coming Home vs Use Somebody (AvB Mashup)
Jose Amnesia - Louder (AvB Edit)
AvB - Fine Without You + Hold On To Me (Full Ext. 12" Mix)
Ilse Delange - The Great Escape (AvB Remix)

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frostdude1 wrote: Just because Deadmau5 has no class, you don't have to associate Tijs with him.

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Originally posted by iammesol Ok... why don't you take a look at Axwell's schedule right now. * 24/08 Cream@Amnesia,Ibiza,Spain * 26/08 MinistryOfSound,London, UK * 26/08 Subliminal@Creamfields, UK * 31/08 1234 Club, Montreal, Canada * 01/09 Soundbar, Chicago, US * 02/09 Supperclub, San Fransisco, US * 03/09 Nikki Beach, Miami, US * 14/09 Cream@Amnesia,Ibiza,Spain * 16/09 Cadeski Manaje, St Petersburg, Russia * 23/09 Positiva@The Cross, London, UK * 29/09 Villa, Toulon, France * 30/09 Amazonia, Malta How bout next time you have to travel that much, with the only time to sleep being your time on planes... search for all the obscure songs and perfect them into your sets. I swear sometimes some of the people on this forum just like to hear themselves talk.

If I was on that schedule, I'd be checking beatport etc in my spare time, to pick up some new shit. Takes me about 15 minutes to go through the new releases, add anything good to my cart, checkout and download. Not to mention those guys are getting tracks/promos/new music sent to them daily. What he doesnt have time to do, is fuck around with the tracks before hand to see what works. But thats why you get a week off here and there, and thats what I'd be doing in my week off...

I'd get really bored of playing the same shit every night on a tour like that. I'd rather take a chance on some new or old records that I havnt played much than go with a formula of stuff that I know will work. What about all those tracks he had when he started spinnning? Surely his music collection didnt start when he got picked up for this big tour schedules? To me, a DJ is defined by his/her music. You're playing other people's stuff, and your collection of music will define how you sound and where your sets can go.

Look at a guy like Danny Howells. He has so much fucking music, both old and new, that you never know where he can take you...and though he'll drop Madonna remix almost every night this year, he'll play alot of other tracks most people havnt heard, but that still kill the club...and to me thats what being a DJ is about. Its about having a unique style, your own unique taste, reflected in the music you have collected.
Mixing can be learned quickly, a good music collection takes time to grow...

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

Wise words Clovis86

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Most wanted:
Above & Beyond pres. Unkle Petter - So Many Faces
Oakenfold - Southern Sun (Tiësto "Dutch" Remix)
AvB vs Laura Jansen - Coming Home vs Use Somebody (AvB Mashup)
Jose Amnesia - Louder (AvB Edit)
AvB - Fine Without You + Hold On To Me (Full Ext. 12" Mix)
Ilse Delange - The Great Escape (AvB Remix)

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frostdude1 wrote: Just because Deadmau5 has no class, you don't have to associate Tijs with him.

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Originally posted by KrissO Wise words Clovis86

Well...its just my opinion. I would kill to be on a tour schedule like that. I'm pretty sure I could take the lack of sleep and stress to be able to play music for all those people

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by iammesol Ok... why don't you take a look at Axwell's schedule right now. * 24/08 Cream@Amnesia,Ibiza,Spain Two days to listen to promos & purchase new tunes * 26/08 MinistryOfSound,London, UK * 26/08 Subliminal@Creamfields, UK Three days to listen to promos & purchase new tunes * 31/08 1234 Club, Montreal, Canada * 01/09 Soundbar, Chicago, US * 02/09 Supperclub, San Fransisco, US * 03/09 Nikki Beach, Miami, US Eleven days to listen to promos & purchase new tunes * 14/09 Cream@Amnesia,Ibiza,Spain Two days to listen to promos & purchase new tunes * 16/09 Cadeski Manaje, St Petersburg, Russia Seven days to listen to promos & purchase new tunes * 23/09 Positiva@The Cross, London, UK Six days to listen to promos & purchase new tunes * 29/09 Villa, Toulon, France * 30/09 Amazonia, Malta How bout next time you have to travel that much, with the only time to sleep being your time on planes... search for all the obscure songs and perfect them into your sets. I swear sometimes some of the people on this forum just like to hear themselves talk.

Please see my edit. At one point he has just under two weeks to find new music.

Great points guys, especially Jake

I definately have a few responses though.

Clovis: I'm sure he has a passion for music... He wouldn't be producing incredible hit songs every 4 months if he didn't. I know of a DJ friend however who never goes to beatport, and instead just goes to his DJ buddies for new tracks. Granted his friends are Booka Shade, the Mafia, and a couple of other very highly revered artists.. he still doesn't whore beatport every day and gets the job done. Even more on that point... is the fact that 1) not every place in the world has wi:fi 2) if hes getting promos... he has to be in sweden... and 3) If I did Creamfields in the afternoon... drove to MoS and played at night.. then flew to another gig across europe in three days.. the LAST thing i'd want to do is look up some more songs.


Bas: You're right. One listen and I pretty much know if I'll spin it or not... but still, as a DJ you have to know that you can't put it in your first 3 sets and the transitions sound mint.

Just to clear a few things up...

I never meant any harm with the term "whoring" in the thread... I previously stated that there was nothing wrong with some of the dj's "whoring" their own productions because sometimes those same tunes are the very hot tracks of the moment and those are the reasons we want to check a set out.

However, sometimes I wonder how/why some of the dj's play the tunes they play. Is it just a business to them trying to play only their labels' productions/remixes just to make more money, or are they firmly convinced that they're playing the hottest music out there?

Anyway... have fun.

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Originally posted by iammesol Great points guys, especially Jake

I don't know if you understood my post, though. I was pointing out that yes, he has time to find "obscure" tracks.

producers create music they like, in their own style, to suit their own tastes

99% of the time, djs play music they like, music that suits their style and taste

see a pattern?

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It's simple to me; if all you can play in a 1 hour set is your own productions, you either have let your ego get to you or you have no f*cking clue about what other kinds of tracks are being produced.

Simple as that and I'm not apologizing to any Ferry fans.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced any party from 2003 and back I only remember bits and pieces...i've combined those memories into one awesome party