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RandomGirl
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quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
In this entire thread.


Btw, I thought the towers would collapse shortly after the second plane hit. If you know how they are constructed, how much fuel is in a 767 going to the west coast, and the speed at which they hit, it isnt hard to figure out.

The one thing the conspiracies cannot refute is exactly what we all SAW live on television. What thousands of people in New York saw that day. They continue to try and make people believe that it doesnt add up, to find information that "is fishy", but if there was the same amount of work and frenzy over PROVING THE CONSPIRACIES BASELESS then it would be obvious to people that the idea is illogical.


Well this wasn't disputing the WTC, but what about the 7th tower? And what about the Pentagon?

Patriotism can make one blind.

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Clovis
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Originally posted by Theresa
Well this wasn't disputing the WTC, but what about the 7th tower? And what about the Pentagon?



I believe that a plane hit the pentagon, and that damage to the inside and foundation of building 7 because of the collapse of 1 & 2 caused it to collapse.


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Clovis
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quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
Well this wasn't disputing the WTC, but what about the 7th tower? And what about the Pentagon?

Patriotism can make one blind.



I'm not a patriot at all, in fact I really hate alot of things about this country. I'm not doubting that the administration may have known about the attacks before hand, and that they have used them for enormous political gain. But I do not like people who make 6 minute flash videos with errie music and some cheap 2 dollar narrator to try and tell me what "really" happened.

If I read a 300 page report that delved into all aspects and took all factors into consideration, written by structural engineers and experts, who believe that the collapse of the towers was due to something else, I might change my opinion.


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DJ Mikey Mike
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Originally posted by Theresa
Patriotism can make one blind.


So can being so blatently naive.

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As I said, I don't necessarily believe this, but I would like to hear/see some factual, logical evidence that explains how the 7th building collapsed, and why the government refused to release video of the plane hit on the Pentagon.

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Originally posted by Theresa
As I said, I don't necessarily believe this, but I would like to hear/see some factual, logical evidence that explains how the 7th building collapsed, and why the government refused to release video of the plane hit on the Pentagon.


You're asking too many questions. You must be a terrorist!


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RandomGirl
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So can being so blatently naive.


Yea, like the millions of Americans who believe/d that we actually started this war because of WMD, which have yet to be found, and has been admitted by the president himself as a mistake.

Seems interesting to me that a government that wouldn't really think twice about lying to their citizens to have them do what they want, would be so generously trusted without question by its people.

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You're asking too many questions. You must be a terrorist!


I see very many questions asked and virtually no responses when said questions are 'answered'. What's the point really when there's no reciprocity?


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I see very many questions asked and virtually no responses when said questions are 'answered'. What's the point really when there's no reciprocity?


It continues to become more and more odd to me that EVERYONE and their fricken dog can dispute the "conspiracy" theories, but no one is able to confirm what is considered the "truth" with some solid evidence and proof.

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Originally posted by Theresa
As I said, I don't necessarily believe this, but I would like to hear/see some factual, logical evidence that explains how the 7th building collapsed, and why the government refused to release video of the plane hit on the Pentagon.


oh christ.

this docoumentary is full of half truths and lies.

"pull" is NOT a term demolition people use for the destruction of buildings. it is a typical half-truth CTs love to propogate. its a term used when connecting a wire to a building when bringing it down.

WTC7 caught a significant amount of debris from the collapse of 1 and or 2, it had a hole 20-30 stories high, much of it on fire, and burned for over 5 hours. the fire department decided not to fight the fire sometime on the day, because it just wasnt safe to do so. they all knew it was going to come down, it was making noises and there was a bulge in the building.

the guy that insured his buildings, is out of pocket hundreds of millions of dollars because of what its costing him to rebuild. he didnt gain anything. its another bit of bullshit thrown in for good measure by the CTs.

youve really gotta be more discerning or at least check out sites that provide facts and evidence instead of doubt and questions.

debunking 9/11 is a great place to start.

i mean, for fuck sake. this stupid bitch of a narrator is dismissing all the eye witness testimony from the fucking fire brigade when she talks about how much fire building 7 had. fuck.

the structures 1-6 that theyre talking about didnt catch fire. thats why they didnt fall down.

comparing these buildings to any other buildings & incidents is completely disingenuous. dont listen to people that compare these collapses to any other incident in history, it hasnt happened before, by any stretch of the imagination. more bullshit.

it didnt fall neatly. it fell to the south. it fell the way they expected based on where the damage and fires were.

alex jones isnt an expert in anything related to structural engineering and his work is thoroughly rejected by the world's engineers.

it took building 7 a lot longer than 6 seconds to fall. its more like 14. another clever video edit by the crazy people.

this is what a fucking demolition looks like.



jones is an idiot.


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quote:
Originally posted by Theresa
It continues to become more and more odd to me that EVERYONE and their fricken dog can dispute the "conspiracy" theories, but no one is able to confirm what is considered the "truth" with some solid evidence and proof.


Yea ok. There's a proven way to get around this "issue". Let's get into specifics. What do you have a problem with? And don't just say WTC 7 ... I would like for you to be very detailed in your analysis. That way we have a clear way of addressing your unique concerns. And please don't cut and paste without understanding what it is you're cutting and pasting ... that way if somebody asks you questions you'll know what you're talking about enough to respond in a reasonable manner.


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RandomGirl
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Originally posted by occrider
Yea ok. There's a proven way to get around this "issue". Let's get into specifics. What do you have a problem with? And don't just say WTC 7 ... I would like for you to be very detailed in your analysis. That way we have a clear way of addressing your unique concerns. And please don't cut and paste without understanding what it is you're cutting and pasting ... that way if somebody asks you questions you'll know what you're talking about enough to respond in a reasonable manner.


LOL, well to be honest with you, that's the thing, I don't know a lot, and that's why I am asking. A lot of things seem strange to me, and I have been reading a lot of "debunking" stuff, as well as "theories" so I am confused.

Why wont the government release their video surveillance of the attack on the Pentagon? Why wouldn't they prove their innocence?

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