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If you unhook the mix return line from your mixer to the computer's LINE IN does it still squeal?

I would have to agree with you if it does and think that it is probably your USB controller. You could test this with a cheap USB interface.

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Originally posted by nem0nic You're pretty ignorant for a headliner.

i didnt realize i was a headliner, but if it makes you feel good to talk shit to one, go ahead.

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Originally posted by nem0nic What the fuck are you talking about? Flowchart? Being able to search by BPM is equal to getting a flowchart from your DJ app?

yeah being able to click and get the results of every song lined up for you in the same key and bpm, id say thats pretty robotic. that was the original argument, was it not?

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Originally posted by nem0nic You're another fine product of the New Orleans school system.

i went to bonnabel in jefferson parish, not new orleans. and yes new orleans school systems are the bane of existance to modern education, thats why you shouldnt brag about playing to the victims of it at shitty raves on canal street.

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Originally posted by nem0nic Way to reverse the engines you kiss ass. You're so hypersensitive to anything regarding manual DJing that you lay out some insane blanket statement about "none of us should be trying to scratch", then try and suck up to the same people you have bashed in both your idiotic posts. Good job!

i didnt say none of us should be trying to scratch, i said none of us were a JZ and that its hard to find good turntablists these days, but put words in my mouth please, rub some more sensationalism all over it and top it off with a "you have your head stuck up your ass because you write music" cheap shot and we can just go back and forth all night.

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Originally posted by nem0nic I'll agree with you a little here. I think that the stigma (it's fucking STIGMA - STIGMATA is plural and refers to the marks the nails made on Jesus' palms)

sorry i watched stigmata last week, but if treating this argument like a spelling bee is going to help you create a better case, go right ahead.

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Originally posted by nem0nic of having the software do the work DOES keep alot of DJs away from digital DJing - and Ableton isn't the ony app that suffers from that problem. But you can't seperate DJing from it's past, and you can't discount the majority of DJs that LIKE the interface some kind of platter gives them.

but this will change over time, id say as quickly as 5-6 years.

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Originally posted by nem0nic Hell, the lack of appropriate interfaces for DJs has given rise to all kinds of great new devices for us to use. It's also shown manufacturers of traditional DJ products that we want MIDI functionality in our equipment, and they have responded (abeit slowly).

yes id love to see more allen and heath type universal mixer + midi controllers but w/ audio hookups in the FRONT.

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Originally posted by nem0nic But even given an amazing physical interface, I would STILL think Ableton Live in it's current form SUCKS as a DJ application. I DO think they will release a DJ centric product, and their version 5 release was definately a nod to DJs. But it's not there yet.

this is where we totally disagreed, i think ableton is so far the best and most uninhibiting one on the market thus far.

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Originally posted by nem0nic Actually, no one was being any kind of nazi in this thread. And YOU were the one coming in thread crapping. We shouldn't all have to suffer for your little inferiority complex.

well im sorry for coming off as such. this is probably the millionth ableton argument ive been in this week.

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Originally posted by nem0nic Neither does phoning it in behind a laptop, since we're trying to get nasty, "bro". I made a living DJing for 12 years. When you get there, I'll give a fuck about your opinion.

ok guy playing at skate country on airline highway is not that big of an achievement. get over yourself. if youve been making a living djing for 12 years that would make you about 8 years too old to be posting on this board anyway.

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Originally posted by nem0nic I didn't put that as well as I could have. My point there was that I am familliar with the process of production, and own or have access to the gear I need to facilitate that. But I also recognise that not everyone has the equipment, knowledge, or desire to be that guy. And in my eyes, a good DJ application is one that accomodates both those groups and everyone in between.

no your point was that you wanted to brag about all the overpriced shit you get to fuck with.

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Originally posted by nem0nic So can I.

omg we agreed.

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I agree with whomever said that if you have to go into internal mode to get at the good features then it would be better just to use Ableton live instead.

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Really you get two extra things:

1. Rewire
2. Auto-beatmatching

For number 1, a couple points:

1. Use can use VST's in Torq directly.
2. For launching clips and samples, you can also use torq directly (albeit not all perfectly synced using external control).

For number 2:
1. I don't care to use it anyway, and I'd rather use ableton if I want perfect beatmatching.

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Originally posted by Zild I agree with whomever said that if you have to go into internal mode to get at the good features then it would be better just to use Ableton live instead.

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yeah being able to click and get the results of every song lined up for you in the same key and bpm, id say thats pretty robotic. that was the original argument, was it not?

Do you consider the alphabet robotic?

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i didnt say none of us should be trying to scratch, i said none of us were a JZ and that its hard to find good turntablists these days, but put words in my mouth please, rub some more sensationalism all over it and top it off with a "you have your head stuck up your ass because you write music" cheap shot and we can just go back and forth all night.

No, actually, thats VERBATIM what you said. And all the crap you've added afterwards is backpedaling.

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well im sorry for coming off as such. this is probably the millionth ableton argument ive been in this week.

so your insane insecure ranting isn't isoalted to just this board? Good for us!

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ok guy playing at skate country on airline highway is not that big of an achievement. get over yourself. if youve been making a living djing for 12 years that would make you about 8 years too old to be posting on this board anyway.

I haven't played a skating rink or a wedding in my life, but I have had residencies all over the Southeast, and played raves when there was such a thing. Now I take time out of my schedule to help new DJs. Like I was doing in this thread for 7 pages before you posted. I also provide input on new DJ products and software for more than one company, which is one reason why I'm still active in the DJ community.

I bet this thread would look alot better with you on ignore...

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Hmm, actually when I unhook the wire going to the Line In, it stops squealing (I can't believe I haven't even tried that yet).

So, what exactly does that mean? Still a grounding issue or something totally different?

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Originally posted by nem0nic Do you consider the alphabet robotic? No, actually, thats VERBATIM what you said. And all the crap you've added afterwards is backpedaling. so your insane insecure ranting isn't isoalted to just this board? Good for us! I haven't played a skating rink or a wedding in my life, but I have had residencies all over the Southeast, and played raves when there was such a thing. Now I take time out of my schedule to help new DJs. Like I was doing in this thread for 7 pages before you posted. I also provide input on new DJ products and software for more than one company, which is one reason why I'm still active in the DJ community. I bet this thread would look alot better with you on ignore...

can we hug this one out man

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Blake just stick to what you do best and do something productive, go make a remix or something we're not "beatmatching nazis" you seem to be very angry take it and your negativity else where...you'd still look like a knobhead behind the screen with your Ableton "live". I know that promoters here would never book you anyway. We can all mix on a computer )

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Originally posted by Blake_Jarrell Sasha sets up next to tables because he uses a Mac, and we all know what that means.

ha nice see avalon cd for clarification

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Originally posted by Prism Blake just stick to what you do best and do something productive, go make a remix or something we're not "beatmatching nazis" you seem to be very angry take it and your negativity else where...you'd still look like a knobhead behind the screen with your Ableton "live". I know that promoters here would never book you anyway. We can all mix on a computer )

you need a hug too dont you? did you not even read the thread? i dont even use ableton most of the time.

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Still a grounding issue or something totally different?

I have to admit I'm at a total loss here. I was thinking feedback, but after hearing it again it doesn't really SOUND like feedback. Is it possible that the LINE IN on your computer is one of these multifunction jacks like I was talking about?

Or lets try this too. Go into your Windows volume control mixer app and find the output for LINE IN. It might also be called something like INPUT MONITOR. MUTE that source and drag the fader to zero while you're at it. Note that this is just muting the OUTPUT of this source, you'll still be able to record with it.

Now hook everything up the way you had it and see if it's still making the noise. If not, then it WAS a feedback loop. Post again if is still making the noise.

Blake, I'm actaully a fan of yours. I bought Destin Beach when it charted on Balance last year, and Okoboji when I heard Hybrid drop it on Proton (HUGE Hybrid fan, and they're a reason I'm pushing for better DJ interfaces/technology). So you have a little bit of my money. Maybe I do need a hug and took your opinion too personally. At least we all have something in our lives we can be this passionate about.

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