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Originally posted by distant EDIT: And no, we won't accept "Because God said so."

Given the jurisdiction of deific presence, I don't really see what is so invalid about this statement. I am not saying that there is a God and It makes the rules, but if there was a God, wouldn't God's word hold true over the whole of reality? If not, I don't really think we are talking about the Human God - compared to humans, perhaps god-like status can be assumed, but we are very paltry creatures.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN so if i know my flatmate is gonna order pizza for dinner does that make his decision pre-determined or not free?

How would you know for sure? There's no point in speculating about "if I knew". You never know. You could expect, based on your intuitions and knowledge about the person, but that doesn't mean you decided for him.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN is still an argument, even if it is an opinion.

argument
-noun

3. a process of reasoning; series of reasons
4. a statement, reason, or fact for or against a point


As I said, Opinion does not equal Argument. You stated no reasons for believing what you believe.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Given the jurisdiction of deific presence, I don't really see what is so invalid about this statement. I am not saying that there is a God and It makes the rules, but if there was a God, wouldn't God's word hold true over the whole of reality? If not, I don't really think we are talking about the Human God - compared to humans, perhaps god-like status can be assumed, but we are very paltry creatures.

All I'm hearing is a bunch of "ifs".

Guys, can we please just go back to making fun of Conservative American Christians?

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Guys, can we please just go back to making fun of Conservative American Christians?

That's exactly what I'm doing.

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Originally posted by distant All I'm hearing is a bunch of "ifs".

Then let's hear a better argument.

Thank you.

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Originally posted by distant That's exactly what I'm doing.

NOT american. NOT conservative. NOT christian. AM atheist.

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Originally posted by distant That's exactly what I'm doing.

No you're not, you're provoking our resident Australian Nihilistic Atheist

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Guys, can we please just go back to making fun of Conservative American Christians?

They make a hollow, ringing sound when they get collected by a truck, sounds kind of church-bell-ish >:D

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Originally posted by Lilith They make a hollow, ringing sound when they get collected by a truck, sounds kind of church-bell-ish >

hahaha

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Then let's hear a better argument. Thank you.

Like I said, "'Cuz God sez' so" is not a valid argument.

What's with you people and digging holes?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN NOT american. NOT conservative. NOT christian. AM atheist.

Good to know. Where's your comeback though?