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| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Have you ever (when it comes to this issue)? |
I'll attack it when you start becoming succinct and a lot less long winded.
| quote: | | First of all, this has nothing to do with extremist religious organizations. That is not why the "conflict" started or still goes on. |
The PLO was started on the simple basis of taking back Palestine by any means necessary, the Zionists where there for much the same reasons.
| quote: | | Secondly, I find it appalling that you would equate being Jewish with being Zionist. So I definetly wouldn't call you a 'Jew lover.' I've never even considered you to be pro-Zionist eigther, so stop assuming I'm slapping that label on you or lumping you with that group. Although, when you completely ignore post like this, and don't respong to them, I think it's rather understandable why I might: |
Zionists are ultra-nationalist jewish settlers. Theyre jews, not christians, muslims or buddists, just jews.
I'm not completely ignoring the post, I do find it appalling that youre using this as a political example and nothing more. Hit the sympathy note and then dive on in with some good old fashioned hating.
Its ugly, inhumane and I've already said all I was going to say on the matter and for now, my opinion of using children to political ends is about as gross as it comes.
| quote: | | Eigther you don't know what Zionism is, or you refuse to read what I post. That gives me little incentive to debate someone. Not a single one of you pro-Zionist or people with a "balanced" perspective ever bothred responing to it. You know why? Because it makes it very obvious why this conflict started, who's fault it is, and why it is the way it is today. And then some of you decide to go ahead and make accusations of being "biased" or twisted and manipulative. |
I read it, I didnt like what you did so I disagreed with the post.
| quote: | | Virtually everything from the creation of the state of Israel to the current situation reflects the disgusting racist ideology of Zionism. Show me how it doesn't. And then I'll consider you and other who accuse me of being 'one-eyd' as having any credibility whatsoever. |
Both these sides have been capable of some awful civilian attrocities, crimes of hatred and very little compassion for who the kill or gets in the way. Given half a chance they'll quite happily kill their own on occassion to get what they want, theyre both extremely savage.
| quote: | | All I have to say is that you have very selective memory. |
No, just a very recently revised opinion of what you really think of me after a few temper outbursts.
| quote: | | Never called you a sheep, Zionist Patsy, or any other name. The only people I've actually lost my temper with are pkc, Q5, Fir3start3r, and DevilDog. And the only one I have some regrets with doing that are PKC. And I've only called people sheep when it comes to 9-11 (mostly), not because I refused to argue a point, but rather because they slap equally offensive labels on me such as 'conspiracy theorist' which is a meanigless term to begin with. That's when I finally lost my cool and decided to call some of these people sheep. Hey, if they're going to call anyone with a veiw not in line with the goverment/mainstream media story some meanigless label, it's kind of hard not to think of them as 'sheep' and eventually call them that after they call you a 'conpiracy theorist' for the umpteenth time. |
So learn to cope with the anger and stop lowering yourself to their levels, even a shortarse like myself with a foul disposition that will thump on lefties or righties, doesnt have to step up very far to be in a small amount of moral high ground around here sometimes and thats really saying something.
| quote: | | I never labeled you anything, at least I never remember doing it. But I already explained that bit. |
No but after repeatedly saying that you don't understand why all the time puts me in the position where I'm obviously intellectually, morally and socially inferior to you because I can't make myself understood.
Even though I use as simple english as possible to put the point across and I'm not yet at the point where I'm going to drag out Paint and start (badly!) drawing pictures.
I am very, very simple.
Dont read between my lines, I'm rarely that literary or literally that clever with it.
Dont start making up stuff I havent written after interpreting it incorrectly, if you dont like it, just say it rather than cut and paste a small book here in response because I dont want to read a huge cut and paste
Dont PM anything to me, because I wont read it.
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