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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles "Do not hate your brother in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in his guilt. Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord." (Lev. 19: 17-18) But then there are, of course, lots of bits about stoning to death adulterers and disobedient children and people who work on the Sabbath and all those other things that the Lord wanted people killed for doing.

I was talking about the non-violence part, I should have put them in separate sentences or something.
We all have to remember that without the Torah, Jesus wouldn't have anything to interpret.

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Originally posted by Vlad He might have had ideas but who's to say that he is the final say? Amidst his ideas, he was still a devout Jew... ate Kosher, respected the Sabbath, etc... You could call him the first public "reform" Jew.

He doesn't have the final say. You do, and I do. But that is my interpretation. Some people DO believe he has the final say.

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Inform the masses! The end of the debate is nigh!


The incarnation of both God and Jesus is:


LORD TETSUO!!

Bow to your God!




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jesus, lol.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN dont argue with the yanks nutter, they know best!

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Originally posted by eROs.au jesus, lol.

SO it begins!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN dont argue with the yanks nutter, they know best!

I've heard a couple of places say that he'll do a DNA test or something.


ok, but what will they compare it to? They don't have Jesus's DNA so theres no way of telling if its Jesus's remains there.

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter I've heard a couple of places say that he'll do a DNA test or something. ok, but what will they compare it to? They don't have Jesus's DNA so theres no way of telling if its Jesus's remains there.

lol i was thinking the same thing.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN dont argue with the yanks nutter, they know best!

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Originally posted by Lateralus Inform the masses! The end of the debate is nigh! The incarnation of both God and Jesus is: LORD TETSUO!! Bow to your God! /thread

ROFL he spelt Tiesto wrong.

N00B!!1

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Originally posted by siastyle Okay iv hurd the Album and lemmi tell you guyz.... Tiesto is gono make it back to the top again with these hits. The thing about it is that hes trying 2 bring a new style tho just like he did with Just be and it worked. they songs areunt TOO HIGHT up. but the vocals acaully are the best thing in 2007. The Track Carpe Noctum is like traffic but it hink he could of prefected the shit ouf it. but generalllyy its an amazing album...oh and Ten Seconds Before Sunrise is like Forever today TIMES 12

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Originally posted by Vlad The mere existance of Christianity is complete bullshit. First off, if Christians were to believe in the ideas of Jesus, than Christians would have to abide by the Torah. No matter how 'holy' Jesus was supposed to be, Jesus still prayed to a god (which disapproves the idea that 'Jesus is thy Lord and savior'), and he abided by the Torah and all its laws.

I'm not certain what exactly your point is. I get the impression you believe that Christians elevate Jesus to a higher status then God, take his authority over God's, and pray to him instead of God. If this is what you think then I must correct you. The proper view of Jesus to Christians is that he was a physical manifestation of God on earth. He is not above God, rather he was part of God who lived as man to experience life as man. Through this experience Jesus became the ideal intermediary between God and man as he was devine but human. Christians do pray directly to God, however, we often will invoke the name of Jesus in our prayers seeking his advocacy on our behalf (I supposed that this is based on a believe that Jesus, having been man, is more sympathetic to our plights). If you believe that Christians disregard God in favour of Jesus you simply misunderstand us.

Additionally, I should point out that stating we ignore the law of the Torah is simply incorrect. Yes, there are many things that we do not abide by, however, this is more a stylistic difference then anything else. Our focus is on the things that Jesus taught, the things he focused on, as this is what we believe he felt was important. What Jesus' ministry was about was cutting through all the little things and erred beliefs that were convoluting the real message of God. Are the laws important, yes, but they are not the be all and end all, what really matters is living as God would want us to.

Now, more on topic with this thread.... A question to any believers (this should apply to Muslims too as finding the remains of Jesus is really more a blow to their faith then it is to Christianity)... if these remains could be and were proven to be Jesus' and his family... does that really effect your beliefs?

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Lateralus Inform the masses! The end of the debate is nigh! The incarnation of both God and Jesus is: LORD TETSUO!! Bow to your God! /thread

Then who is Akira?

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Originally posted by jupiterone The existence of this debate is bullshit. No one wins. Doesn't matter what evidence you bring to the table from either side, it won't make a difference if the other person believes in something else.

+9,393,358,094,823,184,953

Having learned it the hard way, my philosophy is ABANDON ANY ARGUMENT when it pertains to religion, choice of music, choice of Operating System, or afinity for certain brand of MP3 player. It's a pointless conversation in which one thing is constant: COPIOUS AMOUNTS OF CRAP BEING FLUNG BETWEEN CONVERSING PARTIES.

/thread. NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXTTTT!!!!!!!

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No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

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