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lucasp_10
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Australia

quote:
Originally posted by TOR
It may have taken him more effort production wise, as technical standards become higher by the day, but his latest releases hardly sound intelligent musically.



Are you saying one shouldn't comment unless he or she can produce something better? We all know how valid that argument is.


And yes, I'm a producer myself, so I'm aware of everything involved in the production process.


I think you are missing the point of what I was saying. Anyone can make generic music, (whether it be good or bad) as long as you sit there in front of your program you downloaded off P2P, anoone can do it. Again, I'm not saying that I am any better than you at producing (in fact I think I am quite bad), but I really think you missed my point completely.

Why doesn't it sound "more intelligent"?

If you want intelligent music, your listening to the wrong genre. Go lsiten to classical music if you want intelligent. I'm sorry but thats the truth. Classical music is miles ahead of dance int erms of music theory (and most other forms of music). However, thats OK, because dance music is about the dance floor IMO, and it does a dman good job of it.

Who gives a shit, as long as there are people dancing, and have a smile on their face, isnt taht all that really matters?

But botttom line, its Paul van Dyk's music, and he can do what the fuck he wants with it. If you don't liek it, stiff shit. Listen to something else. And again, you don't like it? That's OK, but I can't stand when people here think they know how hard someone works to make song. Like I said in another post in this thread,I much prefer his older songs. However, that's just my taste, I don't go on about how stupid someone is just cause they like pvd's new songs.

Last edited by lucasp_10 on Apr-18-2007 at 16:49

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_Ocean_Drive_
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Iwate

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
exactly. some dickheads here (read Oceandrive) get upset even before the album is out because peoples expectations doesnt seem too high and I can assure you that these sheeps will get upset when its out and people rate it low ("OMFG DO IT BETTER YOURSELF!!!111")


Or they get upset over knob-jockeys like yourself; self-rightous, obnoxious, pompus, poor grammar and punctuation and a general lack of being able to accept criticism or disagreement.


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RebeL9
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
Or they get upset over knob-jockeys like yourself; self-rightous, obnoxious, pompus, poor grammar and punctuation and a general lack of being able to accept criticism or disagreement.


your criticism isn't valid since 1. english is neither my first or second language. 2. I find it funny that you are the one accusing me of not being able to accept criticism since you and your other PvD friends were the one to get upset in the first place because I didn't express any excitement for the comming album.


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_Ocean_Drive_
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Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
your criticism isn't valid since 1. english is neither my first or second language. 2. I find it funny that you are the one accusing me of not being able to accept criticism since you and your other PvD friends were the one to get upset in the first place because I didn't express any excitement for the comming album.


Wrong, again. I just find it mildly irritating how you can slate (or praise) an album that you haven't even heard.


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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Social outcasts are often of the opinion that they must have a drink before being able to loosen up with their inhibitions, thus being able to have a good time.

There's a word that sums up this sort of behaviour, and that word is 'reject.'

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RebeL9
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quote:
Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
Wrong, again. I just find it mildly irritating how you can slate (or praise) an album that you haven't even heard.


I am basing this on his productions over the last 5 years. And if there was any evidence that the comming album would be something special I would love to mention it. But PvD's recent releases (remixes included) have been horrible. But you are welcome to proove me wrong.


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naeblis
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jag tycker du kan bra engelska faktist... jag suger på svensk grammatik o sånt.

I just think, PVD needs to take a break. i.e. stop spendin so much time at the clubs, and more in the studio.

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DJDavidScott
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Registered: May 2002
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Can you all shut the fuck up already...

oh my word... the back and forth.. blah blah...


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I just do it exactly the way I enjoy listening to it. This is most of the time it is with banging beats. It is even with a soft thing, a soft melodic idea, or whatever. I still like to have it rocking. Keep in mind what this music is made for, first of all. Its not made to be easy listening on the radio. Its not made to be easy listening in television. Its actually kick ass in the club. This is what music is. This is the purpose of this art form...to listen to it and let the frequencies actually blow you away. --Paul Van Dyk

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WardC
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
MY take on it

Okay, just thought I would share my take on this opinion/expectations on PvD's work and the upcoming album due in ~Aug-October this year:

I was first exposed to the PVD sound in 1999 and 2000, right around when "Out there and Back" was released. I had never heard anything like this before - this album totally blew me away, and it's still a timeless work of the art of sound...I will always consider the Seven Ways/Out there and Back albums to encompass the trademark "PVD sound" we all know.

I was really impressed by Politics of Dancing 1, which came out in the middle of 2001. I think that, although this was a mix album with tracks from many artists, Paul did a great job of finetuning, adjusting, and re-editing the tracks to give the whole mix that trademark "PVD sound". It was a banging mix album, very smooth, elegant and fluid. In all reality, I think this is the last artist release (of any kind) that really had the quality and ingenuity of sound that I expected from PVD.

Yes, the Global release was *very* good too, but again, this was basically just a mix set of PVD's all-time best hits, but it turned out to be a great-sounding release. The DVD was definately cool too. The release was really not "new material" or an artist album.

Reflections, for me, basically seemed to be like an "experimental test." PVD was really going out on a limb and trying to see how a more poppy type sound would rest with a listener audience. Many tracks on the album seemed more pop music (with electronic elements), than true dance music. It wasn't really an all-out banging dance album, at all. I think PVD just wanted to try some new project collaborations, to take a different route with his music and see how it went.

TPOD2 was somwhat of a disappointment with me. I was expecting it to live up to TPOD1 standards, with the trademark fluid, seamless mixing and subtle, silky nuances of change making for a solid progressive electronic aural assault bliss, but it really just seemed like PVD took a bunch of popular top 40 dance records (that were hot like 9 months earlier from when the mix was released) and made a mix over a weekend, and didn't add any of the PVD flavor or re-editing I would expect. When the mix album FINALLY came out, all the tracks were basically old hat, and you could tell that they could have been mixed by any DJ that knew that they were doing. It did not have a PVD flavor or trademark sound, at all. However, it was a banging dancefloor-style release that embodied some of the elements that PVD was using in his livesets at the time, and the album was a good listen, but got old, quickly.

So, basically, I think that Paul's last 2 releases, Reflections and Politics of Dancing vol.2 have been somewhat of a disappointment. This doesn't mean that his musical abilities are waning, at all. I've seen him perform live 6 times since 2001, and he hasn't disappointed me once. His artist releases are really different than the way he delivers his music on the dancefloor. He does a great job of building up energy when he plays live, and he can keep the energy going throughout his set. I really do wish there was someway that Paul could translate some of the same elements or style from his live sets towards his CD album releases...but all in all, I think Paul has his own agenda, and he wants to keep the 2 separate. It's almost like he is establishing a different identity as a club DJ/performer, and as an electronic music artist. Yeah, I would really like to see something like "Out there and Back" again, it's kind of what I have been waiting on - I have to wholeheartedly agree with everyone on that. I was hoping he would make a great set of 12-15 of his own handcrafted progressive tracks, and make a mix album that showcased the new evolution of his sound, using ableton live, serrato, etc and other modern digital tools to really showcase the creative talent that he has been employing on his live shows. For now, we will just have to wait...for a few months at least, till we know more.

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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by lucasp_10


Who gives a shit, as long as there are people dancing, and have a smile on their face, isnt taht all that really matters?

No it's not. Anyone can make a track that keep people dancing. In fact, it's not even hard. It's just that stuff like that just doesn't work in an artist album environment (or home listening in general).


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WardC
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Fort Worth, Texas

So, I am guessing that most of the album (Release date, and tracks included in the release) is still, for the most part, a mystery. I think that Stormy Skies might be on there, and I have seen some of the photoshoot flyers that might be part of the "In Between" album cover art, but other than that I know ZERO about the new album - other than, it is SUPPOSED to be out later this year.

Can anybody shed anymore light on it?

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trancelove69
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I have the feeling the release is kinda getting pushed back.

The plan was to release the album in August. That should mean the first single should be in his playlists by now already. Also events in June are branded as "In Between Release Tour" so by June we should be hearing most of the album already, again a reason why the first single should be out any day now. Dont see any preorder info on Amazon though. I guess theyre late.

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