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| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
This thread and the person who started it are fucking stupid for any number of reasons, so I'll only point out one: |
Opening your rebuttle with a pompous prick attitude and an Ad hominem attack is really going to convice me your point of view. Or maybe it just gives me ample excuse to flame your sphincter, SYSTEM-jackass.
And please don't tell me this has to do with the fact that your name is SYSTEM-J and I used SYSTEM-F as a trance song for comparision...
| quote: | | How the fuck can you rip off a genre? How can you rip off a genre? |
Oh my god. Oh my god. You totally just typed that twice. You totally just typed that twice.
| quote: | | How? Using the general sounds incorporated by a large body of artists is not "ripping off" anything, because lots of people and lots of tracks have used those sounds. It's not even as if the connection is very close- we're talking a synth sound that's similar. |
Yes, the synth that sounds similar. And the way it's patterned. Along with the kick & clap...that was ALL I had sand in my vagina about. Nothing further.
| quote: | | Stop being an idiot. |
Yeeewwwww are styooooopid. Ayyy am Sven.
| quote: | | Artists taking sounds from other genres and recontextualising them in a new genre is not plagiarism- it's one of the key parts of musical evolution and development. |
Remind me never to make quick witted comments like "she's so ripping off the 60s sytle with her hair" without you commenting, "omg, she can incorporate it and am I mean look at her dress, that's new. You're an idiot." Thank you Dr. Everything is Important and Relevant.
| quote: | | Oh, and the "irony" you found is no such thing. This track is at a slower tempo, |
Yes, I already addressed that.
| quote: | | uses a very different rhythmic template |
Are you talking about the synth I am referring to? Or something else that I never mentioned and really don't care about?
| quote: | | and is largely of a completely different style with completely different musical techniques and aims. |
Largely, yes. But you to ignore the resemblance of a really crappy trance/euro-dance song slowed down in the beginning of Timbaland's song is like ignoring a fat old Russian lady wobbling down the street screaming, "Nyet Nyet Nyet!".
Seriously when I first heard this song I thought, "oh weird, who starts off a euro dance trance at this BPM? Maybe it's during the break and it's going to build up to 130bpm." I thought it was a dance track that happened to start during the "break" (it wasn't uncommon for dance tracks in the 90s to break down into 90-100bpm and built back up to 120-130bpm). But then there was rapping over it and I was like "wtf? hahahahaha, whaaaaat? oh god no!"
| quote: | | This is not the American public buying trance because it's been repackaged, you dolt. |
Sounds like it completely in the intro (before the vocals) to me. But overall song, no. And overall, the incorporation of the elements that I talked about really don't mesh with the track in my opinion. Of course, this is what Timbaland wants people to think, as the album is entitled "Shock Value." So maybe I'm reacting in-the-box? 
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Last edited by Jake Benson on May-27-2007 at 14:46
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