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Originally posted by Omega_M Dude, you talk as if you are the resident expert on alien inter galactic propulsion technology. Solid, liquid, radioactive, solar energy, dark matter, anti matter or whatever fuel they may use basically will be determined by the engineering requirements. Using liquid fuel by no means is a "primitive method". Whatever is needed and works, works.

I never said I was an expert, I am just discussing.
Of course they all do work, but would you rather use the bicycle to travel to Africa or a jetliner? Same for traversing great distances ... you'd need one hell of line of resupply stations to travel great distances using non-renewable fuel and energy sources.

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Originally posted by Omega_M I read somewhere that the designers of SR-71 were hoping that the blackbird would be the platform over which all future air craft designs would be based. Unfortunately that never happened. People then went into a CT mode and said, well maybe his design was influenced by alien technology cause the plane was far too radical for its time, and even now we don't see anything like it. Ofcourse, what people fail to realize is that engineers found other mechanism to make things work, without having to resort to the Black bird's platform. I didn't want to imply that I believe in this stuff. I just wanted to read Trancer's reply cause he seems to believe in a lot of government CTs.

The future main component for aircraft is pretty simple - the use of anti-gravity (magnetic) forces to creat repelling forces to lift the craft off the ground and manipulate these forces for desired effect. You wouldn't even need a droplet of fuel for that.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium The future main component for aircraft is pretty simple - the use of anti-gravity (magnetic) forces to creat repelling forces to lift the craft off the ground and manipulate these forces for desired effect. You wouldn't even need a droplet of fuel for that.

Dude, the US government already has that. They are just keeping it classified.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium anti-gravity (magnetic) forces...

dude, please stop speculating on the future propulsion technology. Words like these don't even make any sense. You are mixing a lot of concepts here. You will need something to create anti gravity force or whatever it takes to fly the aircraft. You will always need a mechanism for propulsion, which requires fuel that will be used to expend energy to overcome resistive forces (in this case, gravity)

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Originally posted by ams.rld Dude, the US government already has that. They are just keeping it classified.

Care to get into detail? I am not talking about hovercraft here, btw.

OK, I admit I confused magnetism and gravity. I shall get more technical then.

I am talking about Nikola Tesla's designs many years ago of an Anti-Gravity Machine.


Heck, 100 years Tesla even proposed use of technology that was not dependent on electricity ... if you read his works and designs, he was the greatest genius who had ever lived! And its not only my opinion ...

Summation of Tesla's Dynamic Theory of Gravity

http://www.netowne.com/technology/important/

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I don't know much about Tesla's anti gravity machine, so I won't comment on that. But here's something from Wiki to think about.

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Anti-gravity is the idea of creating a place or object that is free from the force of gravity. It does not refer to countering the gravitational force by an opposing force of a different nature, as a helium balloon does; instead, anti-gravity requires that the fundamental causes of the force of gravity be made either not present or not applicable to the place or object through some kind of technological intervention. Anti-gravity is a recurring theme in science fiction, particularly in the context of spacecraft propulsion. The concept was first introduced formally as "Cavorite" in H. G. Wells' The First Men in the Moon, and has been a favorite deus ex machina since that day. In the first mathematically accurate description of gravity, Newton's law of universal gravitation, gravity was an external force transmitted by unknown means. However in the early part of the 20th century Newton's model was replaced by the more general and complete description encoded in general relativity (GR). In general relativity, gravity is not a force in the traditional sense of the word, but the result of the geometry of space itself. These geometrical solutions always cause attractive "forces". Under GR, anti-gravity is highly unlikely, except under contrived circumstances that are regarded as unlikely or impossible. The term "anti-gravity" is also sometimes used to refer to hypothetical reactionless propulsion drives based on certain solutions to GR, although these do not oppose gravity as such. There are numerous newer theories that add onto GR or replace it outright, and some of these appear to allow anti-gravity-like solutions. However, according to the current widely accepted physical theories, verified in experiments, and according to the major directions of physical research, it is considered highly unlikely that anti-gravity is possible.[1][2][3]

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Originally posted by twilightki : It feels like something you'd listen to at 4 in the morning, or listen to in your car while you're going in a tunnel.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium ...but would you rather use the bicycle to travel to Africa or a jetliner? Same for traversing great distances ... you'd need one hell of line of resupply stations to travel great distances using non-renewable fuel and energy sources.

yeah but if you think about it, ground, air and water-based vehicles all use liquid fuel for propulsion.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Sorry, didnt mean to do a direct stab at you, I was merely saying that any fuel-based aircraft technology is not alien in nature ... which is your point, I guess.

oh thats cool i agree completely.

you'd also think that as much alien space craft that has visited Russia they would have their own "Area 51" replete with extra-terrestrial technology.

why is it that we Americans are always burdened with alien technology?

http://www.gravitycontrol.org/gravitycontrol.html

Gravity Control and Antigravity

Contents:

Introduction
Antigravity
Gravity Control
John Ernst Worrell Keely
Nikola Tesla
N A Kozyrev
Albert Einstein
Viktor Schauberger
Thomas Townsend Brown
Alexander V. Frolov
Resources

Interesting parts:

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The oldest known earthly and heavenly flying machines were called Vimanas. From Sanskrit texts thousands of years old comes this translation: In the Sanskrit Samaraanganasutraadhaara it is written: Strong and durable must the body of the Vimana be made, like a great flying bird of light material. Inside one must put the mercury engine with its iron heating apparatus underneath. By means of the power latent in the mercury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion, a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky. The movements of the Vimana are such that it can vertically ascend, vertically descend, move slanting forwards and backwards. With the help of the machines human beings can fly in the air and heavenly beings can come down to earth. The vimana texts are estimated to be from fifteen thousand years ago.

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I love the ice-cream-in-the-cup part



WHOA.

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Hahahah, I am mutilating my own thread

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