think of a bassline that has a life of its own, obviously still relating to the rest of the track

Here's an example -

Jay Tripwire - Tokyo Space Noodles.

haven't really heard it in trance music. which is why the only kind of trance I like has a syncopated or driving bassline with subtle modulation


sample

Bumped!

From another thread:

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Originally posted by isoterra i think you're looking at it from the wrong angle.. this kind of trance isn't really about USPs or crafting a style. it's about the artists coming up with nice melodies, putting them over an efficient template and just enjoying the output of each track at face value, safe in the knowledge plenty of fans will do the same.

Exactly. You hit the nail on the head there: "efficient template." This is trance-by-numbers.

The only creativity involved is coming up with a melody that's slightly different from last year's crop of generic "uplifting" tracks.

The rest of it is all just a TECHNICAL WORKOUT: getting the right saw bass and saw lead and saw pad, learning to put the right percussion samples in the right places, and learning your way around EQs and compressors so that you can fill the spectrum and make things nice and loud. Of course, this TECHNICAL WORKOUT can be very tough, because more experienced producers are often unwilling to share knowledge -- since they themselves took a long time to learn it. But...

...put a couple experienced guys who are "pros" at this stuff -- say, Waakop Reijers and Cor Fijneman -- in a decent studio with a newbie trance producer for a few hours each day, and if they were willing to teach, I bet that the newbie could have all the technical stuff down and start churning out tracks identical to those of his "idols" inside of two weeks.

just wanted to post a quote from thomas merton:

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After all, from my very childhood, I had understood that the artistic experience, at its highest, was actually a natural analogue of mystical experience. It produced a kind of intuitive perception of reality through a sort of affective identification with the object contemplated - the kind of perception that the THomists call "connatural"... I had learned from my own father that it was almost blasphemy to regard the function of art as merely to reproduce some kind of a sensible pleasure or, at best, to stir up the emotions to a transitory thrill. I had always understood that art was contemplation, and that it involved the action of the higest faculties of man

from Thomas Merton - The Seven Storey Tower

Here you go:

http://www.philosophaster.com/music...resoftrance.mp3

128 measures of today's trance. Four songs combined for maximum tranceability!

A bit discordant since I didn't bother to mix in key, though.

Oh, and I didn't edit the tracks -- in fact, I didn't even have to speed them up or slow them down, since they were all at 138 BPM. And they really do all start their breakdowns 96 bars into the track.

haha


i think mixing harmonically would have made it ridiculous





it would be fun to take like 20 trance tracks, sequence them on different channels all starting at the same time


then just run through the channels like 4 bars at a time

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Originally posted by nefardec haha i think mixing harmonically would have made it ridiculous it would be fun to take like 20 trance tracks, sequence them on different channels all starting at the same time then just run through the channels like 4 bars at a time

Heh, I had something set up in Live like that as well: 9 bars of different songs all alternating. But I decided to go for the "all at once" thing.

lol, that was fun.

wow that's hilarious - i didn't even realize it was all going at once

i thought there were just a couple transitions

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Originally posted by nefardec wow that's hilarious - i didn't even realize it was all going at once

I know, right? -- It's kind of hard to tell how many songs are going at the same time since they use such similar sounds and breaks...

For anyone who's curious, the four songs were:

"Serious Truth" by Tom Colontonio

"Light Collector" by Tom Colontonio

"Panorama" by Icone

"Aerial" by Static Blue