Originally posted by Scoops
the only people voting in these polls should be DJs, Promoters, Club Owners.
Err ... what?
Oct-10-2007 19:55
idoru
You Can Call Me Al
Registered: May 2004
Location: Cascadia
quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
the reality is guys the dj mag poll does matter. i'm sorry, i understand the movement and the thought process to discredit such a stupid idea for a poll and to rank something so objective but people love it... ESPECIALLY marketing people.
imagine being the p.r. person to the #1 DJ in the world... what an easy selling point that is.
and unfortunatly everyone in the business depends on the marketability of DJ's... 'Come to Pacha this week and see the #3 DJ in the world.'
it will only get bigger (and that's proven, 325,000 votes this year - holy cow) so you can keep fighting it but it will always be there and until you get past all the enormous amount of $$ these DJ's and agencies spend on marketing will the MUSIC side of the music BUSINESS emerge.
Thank you for describing exactly why it shouldn't exist.
quote:
Originally posted by RJT
No one is saying the list doesn't 'matter from a purely marketing point of view (in fact I've said it in this very thread, many, many times), but it's hardly a list of the top 100 DJ's in the world, and as such, DJ Mag's being upset at CL and Dan is absolutely unwarranted, because no one other than DJ Mag can be blamed for creating a system which essentially invited exploitation.
Show of hands - how many of you actually think this is going to affect Dan and CL's careers in some profound sense for years to come?
*keeps hands down*
Oct-10-2007 19:58
Igaryok
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jul 2006
Location:
I remember when people were getting their panites in a bunch when somebody questioned Dj Dan's standing.
Oct-10-2007 19:59
Zombie0729
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2003
Location: .
quote:
Originally posted by RJT
Show of hands - how many of you actually think this is going to affect Dan and CL's careers in some profound sense for years to come?
what do you really know about the scene? my guess isn't much. think about the $$$$ given to these DJ's for being the #5-6-7 whatever. Lets say RJT you paid DJ Dan $25,000 to mix Ultra's latest mix compilation full on knowing that his marketing level (that being #5) would grant you around 100,000 in CD sales over an 18mos time frame. well shit, you paid the #3 DJ for his name and now what?
or
RJT you own XYZ promotions, two years ago you paid DJ Dan $3,000 for a gig at your clubs. Then 2007 hits and you're now paying him $20,000 for DJ Dan who is probably still pulling the same crowd size.
Wouldn't you feel taken advantage of? and that's just two examples.
Oct-10-2007 19:59
RJT
last minute disco
Registered: Oct 2004
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by Igaryok
I remember when people were getting their panites in a bunch when somebody questioned Dj Dan's standing.
More often than not that had to do with people completely ignorant as to who DJ Dan was making baseless assumptions about him that were completely wrong.
That being said, this is without a doubt the point on which myself and others will have to concede most to the masses. A bit trite, but hey, if that's the kind of victory you're happy with, well then congratulations on all your success.
Edit: And Ok Anthony, I hear you loud & clear buddy. Thanks for lending your vast experience to the discussion.
The people who WANT it to hurt Dan and Chris Lawrence's careers are the ones who keep saying it WILL.
They hope if they repeat it often enough it will come true.
There is nothing like kicking a man when he's down, that's my motto.
Unfortunately they are only talking to about 1% of the people who go out to clubs on these boards. Most clubbers will never even hear about this, nor would they even care.
Oct-10-2007 20:45
Ian
Not dead yet.
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: UK
Mint. I'm going to vote RJT & Mikey in the DJ Mag top 100 cheaters list
Oct-10-2007 21:04
glass
SILLY HATS ONLY!
Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Washington D.C.
This whole affair make's me grow a big rubbery one. I hope more people start cheating