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| quote: | Originally posted by Djsketchbag
Plus Dj's get paid tones of money for live shows they should consider their tracks as a promotial tool for people to come out to their shows to see them play live. |
This comment has been made many times, not just by you Peter.
I must ask:
Though it's not common, there are many producers out there who DON'T DJ! . . .
So what for these producers now, based on that comment?? Since they don't DJ, I guess they're just FUCKED, eh, based on that logic!
They aren't doing shows and making money from that avenue -- producing and selling tunes is their only job, how they make their livings.
| quote: | Originally posted by Porky
but here's another example laura. as a pvd fan i used to travel around to diff gigs to see him spin. as a fan who donwloaded his music for free, i repaid my respects by attending alot of his shows and buying his CDs.
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Just bc you support someone (a DJ) by paying cover at a club when he or she is touring, doesn't earn you the right to steal from him or her in another way!
Spending money on one aspect of what a person does does not entitle some one to steal from the same person in another asect! One doesn't justify the other. That's a ridiculous way to look at things.
I know it realitionalizes things in your head, but that doesn't make it any more "right" in reality.
| quote: | Originally posted by Chris Allen
Since when was it your right to get music for free?
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This pretty much sums up my feelings.
| quote: | Originally posted by Orko
DJ's play a variety of music, from a large variety of artists. When you say you want to download the tracks for free, then go and see them live, you are no supporting everybody.
Lets take the PVD example that Porky presented. The problem with your example is that he does not play all his own music. You go out, download a set, or some songs that he plays. Then you go see him live and he gets paid. What about all those artists that helped to make his show a success?
PVD pays for his music (sometimes), and each artist gets paid once from him buying one copy of that record. By paying PVD for his performance, you are not neccessarily supporting each and every artist. What if you downloaded a song, that he didn't even play when you see him live?
DJs and radio are able to and allowed to play the music they bought, because it is supposed to be a promo tool. You go hear it, and go buy it. You do not get to hear it and then keep it.
The majority of artists which make up the scene will never get to tour, because they do not have enough material, nor do they DJ. It is just crazy to expect every artist to also DJ. Some of them do not have the skills, nor the drive to do so. And some just plain do not have the resources, because they put them into producing.
Please stop bringing up Radiohead, Trent Reznor, and Prince. Those guys are massive, with huge followings, and a substantial amount of resources behind them. They can run it as a business. Take a hit on the album, and marketing, but make it back in touring. One thing to remember, the people seeing their show, would probably have seen the show if the new albums was released or not. |
Good fucking post, Bobby, and excellent points.
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Last edited by Jem_hadar on Jan-28-2008 at 18:26
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I knwo it's not common for a Dj to get paid that much money for one gig. But international djs do get several K per gig ( witch was my original argument ) so my point was that their tracks are a great promotional tool to get people out to see them, so they can continue to get paid good money. Like i really want to see Richard Dinsdale and i have never herd a set from him but i have liek 15 of his tracks and i love every single one. (yeah i'm pissed i missed him last spring at footy *cries*)
