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Originally posted by Evol` Lol, its always interesting to see bbs/cnn nation kids point of view...

If you are referring to me. I don't have those channels.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru Lets see where they went wrong. Napolean didn't have any winter clothing and his supply lines were streched thin. He did burn Moscow though. hitler had Ukrainians and Belorussians' killed even though many of them loved being liberated from Russia. So had Hitler been nicer to the Ukrainians and belorussians' good bye Russia. Russia would not have lasted. Also why do people think we are in the 1940's? Have people forgotten all the progress that has been made? Russia's size doesn't matter anymore nor do their equipement. The majority of their equipement is old and out of date. Like I said Russia would stand no chance against NATO. NONE.

So where do you disagree? The Russians have never been subjigated. Their enemies made blunders yes, but the Russians knew how to use the weather AND Russian "state of the art" weapons systems such as the T34 tank. You greatly underestimate Russian capabilities, just as Napolean and Hitler did. And if NATO makes the same mistake, Russia will slam the foot down. Remember who beat the Americans to space...

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Originally posted by Krypton So where do you disagree? The Russians have never been subjigated. Their enemies made blunders yes, but the Russians knew how to use the weather AND Russian "state of the art" weapons systems such as the T34 tank. You greatly underestimate Russian capabilities, just as Napolean and Hitler did. And if NATO makes the same mistake, Russia will slam the foot down. Remember who beat the Americans to space...

omg you don't understand. Size isn't everything and Russian's are not trained good enough. NATO troops have good equipment and the training for it. Russia doesn't. Remember who beat who to the Moon

Don't underestimate the Russians...

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Originally posted by Krypton Don't underestimate the Russians...

Don't underestimate me...
What about the Khan...ha!!

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru Don't underestimate me... What about the Khan...ha!!

What? Are you going to take on the Russians Rambo style?

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Originally posted by Krypton What? Are you going to take on the Russians Rambo style?

Whose rambo? Like I said Russia is not that strong to take on any western nation or even China/India/pakistan/Iran etc etc.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru Whose rambo? Like I said Russia is not that strong to take on any western nation or even China/India/pakistan/Iran etc etc.

And based on what analysis do you take this view? I think its ridiculous...

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Originally posted by Krypton And based on what analysis do you take this view? I think its ridiculous...

Facts. And you? Speculation?

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru Facts. And you? Speculation?

What facts? I used history; did you forget? You tried to negate my point (Russia never subjigated). You failed. Speculation? HA!

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Originally posted by Krypton What facts? I used history; did you forget? You tried to negate my point (Russia never subjigated). You failed. Speculation? HA!

I used history too. Remember Gengis Khan? You probably don't even remember and I used modern history too. War has changed you can't compare Hitler and Napolean genious to today's world.

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Originally posted by guerra-monstru I used history too. Remember Gengis Khan? You probably don't even remember and I used modern history too. War has changed you can't compare Hitler and Napolean genious to today's world.

Sorry, but Russia the nation did not exist in Ghengis Khan's time. Back then, what is today Russia was a collection of city-states, fiefdoms, and kingdoms.

You used modern history incorrectly, because you never proved that Russia was ever subjigated. All you did was try to make an excuse for why Russia was not subjigated. That is not the issue. It's ok though. The guys at the top, those doing the diplomacy and treaties know Russia is the bear at the table, and not a country which can be pushed around, which is what I imply from your underestimation of Russian power. Russia and China will both serve to be the balance of power to that of the USA, if ya didn't know...

Four words...UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL

Of which, Russia has been a part of...

Do nuclear tipped intercontinental ballistic missiles ring a bell?