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8Wonders
Arnej



Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Gotta love the double standards.

It's good to know the money hungry whores can rely on you to represent them whenever they are being bashed on these forums, though.


In case you didn't notice, it was a sarcastic remark.

I am not representing anyone but myself, but I can always depend on you to hop onboard the hate wagon, that's for sure.


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Mr.Mystery
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Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by 8Wonders
What I am defending is simply the right for the artist to express himself musically. It's a bit difficult to see things from this perspective unless you are an artist yourself.

Then again there's a difference between expressing yourself musically and producing a completely calculated, soulless, heartless piece of "music" to put bread on the table.

As an artist you really should know this.


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Mr.Mystery
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quote:
Originally posted by 8Wonders
In case you didn't notice, it was a sarcastic remark.

I am not representing anyone but myself, but I can always depend on you to hop onboard the hate wagon, that's for sure.

Whoa, the hater card. Really quite unexpected.


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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
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Someone find that interview where he says if he could play whatever he wanted it would be mostly "weird ambient stuff" and that involver was one of his favorite CDs.

I mean, he's been playing to this "audience" for years. I think Armin stopped expressing himself musically a long time ago...


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8Wonders
Arnej



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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Then again there's a difference between expressing yourself musically and producing a completely calculated, soulless, heartless piece of "music" to put bread on the table.

As an artist you really should know this.


And you as an artist should appreciate that sometimes reaching a wider audience requires taking certain risks, and you really should see the big picture instead of condemning something so bluntly.

Hypothetical scenario.

I compose an album, 13 tracks, all 'trance', whatever that word means to you, 1 of which is a 'commercial' record, with the sole purpose of luring people to find out what else I've done, to expose more people to my interpretation of trance music and perhaps get them interested in the genre as a whole.

Bad thing ya?


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Whoa, the hater card. Really quite unexpected.


Only because your bandwagon-hopping is so predictable.


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And you as an artist should appreciate that sometimes reaching a wider audience requires taking certain risks, and you really should see the big picture instead of condemning something so bluntly.

"Taking certain risks" is one thing. Doing what I said in my previous post is something completely different. If you're only concerned in reaching a wider audience then you need to rethink why you're in the business in the first place.
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Hypothetical scenario.

I compose an album, 13 tracks, all 'trance', whatever that word means to you, 1 of which is a 'commercial' record, with the sole purpose of luring people to find out what else I've done, to expose more people to my interpretation of trance music and perhaps get them interested in the genre as a whole.

Bad thing ya?

Ya.


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Only because your bandwagon-hopping is so predictable.

What bandwagon would that be?


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8Wonders
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
"Taking certain risks" is one thing. Doing what I said in my previous post is something completely different. If you're only concerned in reaching a wider audience then you need to rethink why you're in the business in the first place.

Ya.


Ohhh! So any artist whose motives are to expose his art to the most people possible is doing it for the wrong reason?

I can only laugh at that ... there wasn't much you could have said that would have surprised me, but you just did.


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Mr.Mystery
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Originally posted by 8Wonders
Ohhh! So any artist whose motives are to expose his art to the most people possible is doing it for the wrong reason?

I can only laugh at that ... there wasn't much you could have said that would have surprised me, but you just did.

You, on the other hand, reacted the just as I expected.

The key word in my previous post was "only". Dig it.


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Clovis
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quote:
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Ohhh! So any artist whose motives are to expose his art to the most people possible is doing it for the wrong reason?




Nope, but you can do it without selling out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christo


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8Wonders
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Nope, but you can do it without selling out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christo


And what would your definition of selling out be?


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