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DJ Eco
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quote:
Originally posted by chimera66
no offense guys but this series is really in the grand scheme of things not exciting. i get they are "your" teams but the playoffs is a time to watch great hockey whether your team is involved or not. stop bitching and watch other games.



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DJ Eco
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quote:
Originally posted by trunks1022
i sure do. does claude lemieux ring a bell? slag off now



Avery shoudn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Claude. Your talking about a Conn Smythe winner and 4 time Stanley Cup champion compared to Avery who is all of a sudden clutch because he has scored 3 playoff goals this year? Avery's a big enough asshole to be getting his very own unsportsmanlike clause.


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Dany Veltri
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
Avery shoudn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Claude. Your talking about a Conn Smythe winner and 4 time Stanley Cup champion compared to Avery who is all of a sudden clutch because he has scored 3 playoff goals this year? Avery's a big enough asshole to be getting his very own unsportsmanlike clause.


Lemieux was a piece of shit coward. His hit on Draper in the playoffs was a disgrace, way worse than anything Avery has done.

I've played hockey since i'm 4 through college. There's an unwritten rule, that you don't ever do that. Putting your hands in front of a goalie is one thing. Deliberately trying to maim someone is another.

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trunks1022
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
Avery shoudn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Claude. Your talking about a Conn Smythe winner and 4 time Stanley Cup champion compared to Avery who is all of a sudden clutch because he has scored 3 playoff goals this year? Avery's a big enough asshole to be getting his very own unsportsmanlike clause.


cheap shot on draper. enough said..

Old Post Apr-14-2008 20:19  Hong Kong
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DJ Eco
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Well, fair enough, I'll giveya that... Lemieux has had plenty cheap shots over the years... But everywhere I look, Rangers fans are referencing Lemieux (on Youtube, as trolls on the Devils forums, virtually everywhere) as if that has any bearing... Lemieux hasn't played on the Devils in how long? Not to mention, we really don't put him on half the pedestal that we do the real greats in our team's history, Stevens, Kenny, etc... Avery's a tool and a joke sometimes and the fact that we had Claude Lemieux years ago doesn't change that... Like I said, Daneyko said it best, Avery could be a great player, he just needs to tone it down and stop the shenanigans...


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trunks1022
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i hope the devils have stronger mental fortitude re: sean avery than you do marcello

i've been entertained by the series so far. good hard hits on both sides, though i still think the rangers defense lack balls.

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For the most part, I like some of the Rangers players... Some of them... For example, I have a great amount of respect for Jagr as a player. He's "one of those players." I think Shanahan's another one. Drury's a very good player as well. And Lundqvuist is skilled too... But Avery represents everything I DO hate about the Rangers. He's basically an asshat Ranger fan that they allowed to play on the team, with that mouth of his. His actions and the way he plays makes a mockery of the game, as WE ALL saw in last night's game with his "screening" of Brodeur. Even Drury thought he was ridiculous. I don't think it's too far-fetched to imagine a large amount of resentment toward Avery on the Ranger bench. Yes, he energizes games, but I don't think it's feasible to think the entire Ranger team likes him.... So we sure as hell don't like him... Vishnevsky needs to injure him in Game 4, and then the Series is ours.



I have the same exact thoughts


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chimera66
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i'm a fan of hockey although i have one favorite team and other teams i like. i want to watch good hockey sooooooooooooooo i watch EVERY series every year; people should try that.

as for the draper hit, that sucks but oh well plus i liked claude


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I know when Avery played in Detroit he annoyed Yzerman so much they made him change in the hallway during the playoffs .

I think he's toned down his act a lot, and this is scary, but he's probably their most important forward.

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DJ Eco
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Originally posted by trunks1022
i hope the devils have stronger mental fortitude re: sean avery than you do marcello

i've been entertained by the series so far. good hard hits on both sides, though i still think the rangers defense lack balls.




I hope they do too haha... Well, Clarkson calmed down re: his thoughts on Sean Avery and really matured last game, so that's a good sign. If he's calm, then the rest of the team must not give Avery a passing thought... As for your defense, the same goes for ours... Our defense this year is the worst it's been in so many years. Everytime it's in our zone, a shot is taken and Brodeur has to make a great save, or get lucky. We have a few key defenders, but nowhere near as close to the depth we used to have...


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yankeeBaby
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Dude this playing unfair shit happens in every freakin game....I see it against AND for my team, so everyone needs to stop their bitching. There is a dude like Avery on every other team in the league, and like I said, if he is ON your team, you love him for the spice, aqnd if he is not, then you hate him for being an asshole. Marcello, just because YOU wouldnt like him on your team doesnt mean others dont. I love avery, and I will hate the bastard when he leaves. PLain and simple.


Wai, remember you told me that I am like 90% of the fans out there who care about watching their particular playoff games, and will simply check the scores of others? And that you were in the 10% that actually sat down and watched every game available to watch? Rememer that, because most people dont give a f*ck about whats going on with (For example) san Jose or whoever unless it affects their team. To us, this is the most exciting series, and nothing else matters until one of us on to the next round.


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trunks1022
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lol avery forces rule change. and the comments from other players is great too.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playo...tory?id=3346729

quote:
NHL amends unsportsmanlike conduct rule in response to Avery's antics
Associated Press

Updated: April 14, 2008, 3:55 PM ET

NEW YORK -- Sean Avery found yet another way to annoy Martin Brodeur -- and forced the NHL to change a rule in his honor.

The Hall of Fame resume of the New Jersey Devils goalie doesn't resonate with Avery, the New York Rangers forward who has turned agitation into an art form. During a five-on-three power play in New Jersey's 4-3 overtime playoff victory Sunday night, Avery planted himself in the crease and faceguarded Brodeur.

Holding his stick upward, Avery waved it side to side to block Brodeur's vision in a newfangled method of screening. Brodeur gave him a whack, but that was hardly a deterrent.

"I've played for 15 years in this league. I've been watching games for 33 years. I had never seen that in my life," Brodeur said. "I don't think that kind of behavior should be done in front of the net, but there is no rule for it."

That was true Sunday, but not Monday. The NHL moved quickly to eliminate this activity by making an on-the-fly rule interpretation.

"An unsportsmanlike conduct minor penalty will be interpreted and applied, effective immediately, to a situation when an offensive player positions himself facing the opposition goaltender and engages in actions such as waving his arms or stick in front of the goaltender's face, for the purpose of improperly interfering with and/or distracting the goaltender as opposed to positioning himself to try to make a play," Colin Campbell, the NHL director of hockey operations, said in a statement.

Avery scored during the advantage in a traditional way, receiving a feed from Scott Gomez and redirecting the puck into the net.

Still, what led to the goal was the pressing issue.

"That's not something that anyone writing the rule book has anticipated, and I don't think that we view that as part of our game," said Carolina Hurricanes general manager Jim Rutherford, an NHL goalie for 13 seasons. "With that being said, Sean Avery didn't do anything to break any rules.

"With every rule that is written or how we try to change the game, somebody gets creative. Sean has gone beyond being a little bit creative on this one," he said.

That is exactly what you get from Avery, a talented player always looking for ways to push the envelope. He rarely stops talking on the ice or the bench, whether it's to opponents, teammates, officials or anyone who will listen.

"I've never seen that before," Pittsburgh Penguins defenseman Ryan Whitney said. "It seemed odd to me. He's not in a position to get a rebound if there is one because his stick is up in the air."

As with most unexpected wrinkles, Rutherford expected the issue to be addressed by GMs before next season. That was before Campbell stepped in.

"To see that for the first time in a playoff game, that seemed to go a little beyond how we would expect the game to be played," Rutherford said. "The defenseman has a responsibility of moving players out from in front of the net, which becomes a little bit harder now with the obstruction and interference rules.

"Clearly it's not up to Marty to defend against that. He is supposed to stop the puck. It's really going to be up to Marty's teammates to offset what he is doing," he said.

The trick for players matched against Avery is to ignore him, but that is easier said than done. Avery has the knack of riling up people to the point they find themselves mouthing off or worse, getting so angered that he draws a penalty from someone who will do almost anything to shut him up.

"He's an idiot," Penguins forward Gary Roberts said.

The 41-year-old Roberts is no stranger to Avery, and his 21 seasons of NHL experience did nothing to help him keep his cool. Back in November, Avery goaded Roberts into a four-minute high-sticking penalty that led to a goal in a Rangers victory.

"A guy like that, they take it a little bit more of an insult after you disrespect them and all they've done for the game and how great they are," Avery said then of Roberts.

Brodeur is no exception. Avery has crashed into him on several occasions, dropped him with shoves and punches and goaded him into trips and swipes. In Game 2 of this series, Avery stood in front of Brodeur long after play headed back up ice. The two jawed, and Brodeur even leaned his head against Avery's helmet during the exchange.

Avery has pestered the Devils in many ways in the best-of-seven series that New York leads 2-1. He has earned multiple power plays and has scored in each of the first three games.

"Here we are trying to sell the game, and stuff like that is going on," Devils forward John Madden said. "I just find it childish and I don't agree with any of it.

"There's not much you can do without taking a penalty or doing something stupid. You've got to ignore him and play on and not let him be a factor in the game," Madden said.

Although Avery isn't speaking to reporters during the series, he has no doubt enjoyed drawing the Devils' attention.

"That's just Sean Avery being Sean Avery," Ottawa Senators forward Chris Neil said. "It's kind of like an instigator. He may not be doing anything, but he is initiating."

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press

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