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Originally posted by d-miurge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distin...gement_of_Taste

What does that book have to do with this thread?

more recently, a few songs which come to mind for me are:

dj eco - tonight is forever (martin roth edit)* (armin dropped the hell out of it last night in nyc)
leon bolier - ocean drive boulevard
orjan neilsen - la guitarra

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Originally posted by ToxicGreenWaste

Absolutely agree.



My fave from Untrue.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles What does that book have to do with this thread?

What we like is more a matter of social conditioning than a matter of "pure feelings". I read what you call "emotion in modern EDM" through that analytical prism.

From Atomic Babies liveacting at the MEMF to Dan Bell, what we like, and what implies emotions is a social construction. Of course the situation is not that radical but I think that in most part it is.

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Originally posted by d-miurge What we like is more a matter of social conditioning than a matter of "pure feelings". I read what you call "emotion in modern EDM" through that analytical prism. From Atomic Babies liveacting at the MEMF to Dan Bell, what we like, and what implies emotions is a social construction. Of course the situation is not that radical but I think that in most part it is.

Good lord I hate Marxist analysis of art. It's so annoyingly simple-minded.

Play some "music" composed of ping pong balls being thrown down a stairwell followed by the second movement of Beethoven's Fifth, then ask a thousand people from fifty different countries which one has clearer emotional content.

I don't think there's any reasonable doubt as to what you'd find.

I'm sure "social conditioning" explains why my brother and I have completely opposite tastes in music.

The fact that I like classical music and he doesn't must mean that I'm aspiring to be "upper class," right?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I'm sure "social conditioning" explains why my brother and I have completely opposite tastes in music. The fact that I like classical music and he doesn't must mean that I'm aspiring to be "upper class," right?

depends on what you mean by "classical"?

Much of classical music is divided by age and movement

there was a time when classical music was accessible to many

and there was a time when it was strictly for the Oberschicht

you can't really put "clasical" in one pigeonhole imo.

Marxism is a load of shit. It takes a basic truism (The surroundings we grow up and live in will influence our lifestyle and interests) and tries to make everything explainable by economic background. It's a shitty catch-all theory that requires no thought to use.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Marxism is a load of shit. It takes a basic truism (The surroundings we grow up and live in will influence our lifestyle and interests) and tries to make everything explainable by economic background. It's a shitty catch-all theory that requires no thought to use.

indeed.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Play some "music" composed of ping pong balls being thrown down a stairwell followed by the second movement of Beethoven's Fifth, then ask a thousand people from fifty different countries which one has clearer emotional content.

Unless you're really really good at throwing ping pong balls.

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