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Ang ' ela_ie
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: SF

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Forget about global warming or ice caps melting, CO2 absorption by the ocean alone should be reason enough to implement drastic changes and half our emissions.


Im not quite sure what this means. The oceans absorb co2 whether we are in a warming environment or not.


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adi_hanson
feels a newbie.



Registered: Dec 2007
Location: Blackburn

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Forget about global warming or ice caps melting, CO2 absorption by the ocean alone should be reason enough to implement drastic changes and half our emissions.



come on


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Old Post Jul-16-2008 23:47  England
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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil

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Originally posted by d-miurge
Global warming is not discussed, except in the US.

Not unlike most of the Intelligent Design "controversy".

Here in Brazil, at least, it seems to be restricted to a few evangelicals who denial pretty much everything. As a matter of fact, it reminds me of a girl who said the sea level wouldn't rise because God had promised not to use water to destroy the world ever again


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Old Post Jul-16-2008 23:48  Brazil
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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
Im not quite sure what this means. The oceans absorb co2 whether we are in a warming environment or not.


Yes, but because of the astronomical levels of CO2 in the atmosphere it has been absorbing far more than usual, which is changing the PH of the oceans and having disastrous effects.

Heres an abstract of the article, couldn't find the full piece.

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/20...fa_fact_kolbert


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Old Post Jul-16-2008 23:49  France
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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by adi_hanson
come on



What?


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Old Post Jul-16-2008 23:51  France
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idoru
You Can Call Me Al



Registered: May 2004
Location: Cascadia

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
What?


Don't bother with him anymore, man. Waste of time.

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gehzumteufel
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: so cal

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Yes, but because of the astronomical levels of CO2 in the atmosphere it has been absorbing far more than usual, which is changing the PH of the oceans and having disastrous effects.

Heres an abstract of the article, couldn't find the full piece.

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/20...fa_fact_kolbert

Here is a PDF of the whole article

http://www.es.ucsc.edu/~jzachos/Dat...rt%20Oceans.pdf


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Ang ' ela_ie
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: SF

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Yes, but because of the astronomical levels of CO2 in the atmosphere it has been absorbing far more than usual, which is changing the PH of the oceans and having disastrous effects.

Heres an abstract of the article, couldn't find the full piece.

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/20...fa_fact_kolbert



Okay... but the rising temperature alone is a big enough problem in itself. Also, as the oceans get warmer, theyre going to start absorbing less co2. The solubility of co2 in water decreases as temperature increases. There's a lot of assumptions made in that statement, which I understand, but all in all my point is that the oceans are not well understood. At least not as well as the atmosphere. We honestly dont know how the marine system is going to respond to this kind of carbon concentration.


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adi_hanson
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yeah leave me alone , give it 5 years ago and we would be arguing over how a meteorite would kill us all


ill see you at the next doomsday fad


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nefardec
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Originally posted by adi_hanson
yeah leave me alone , give it 5 years ago and we would be arguing over how a meteorite would kill us all


ill see you at the next doomsday fad



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Clovis
techno jungle shit



Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie
Okay... but the rising temperature alone is a big enough problem in itself. Also, as the oceans get warmer, theyre going to start absorbing less co2. The solubility of co2 in water decreases as temperature increases. There's a lot of assumptions made in that statement, which I understand, but all in all my point is that the oceans are not well understood. At least not as well as the atmosphere. We honestly dont know how the marine system is going to respond to this kind of carbon concentration.



Read the article, it is quite good. And we don't want the oceans getting warmer or absorbing more CO2.


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Old Post Jul-17-2008 00:01  France
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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

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Originally posted by nefardec
must be nice in your bubble



The best part is I never once in this debate argued any kind of doomsday fad. I'm not even concerned about global warming. I'm concerned about protecting the environment, conservation, reducing waste and reducing pollution.


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