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Originally posted by skot_e Link

DonnyB and others who are just dismissing this coverup, click this link and what the movie.
Now I am not suggesting this whole thing is a conspiracy, but in this Pentagon movie, you will see there is NO PLANE. Where did an aircraft the size of 50(?) metres dissapear to. No wings, No Rolls Royce engines, No Fuselage...

Before you come up with some 'conspiracy theorist' claims, watch the movie. If you still doubt it, say what you like.

Alright, I clicked that link. And it said something about a mind control machine.

RUBBISH, complete garbage!

^^^ Really? That's TFF.

"There is no plane that hit the Pentagon"......eeesh.

So it just happens to not be visable?
I don't remeber the Mind control machine, and yeah I agree that sounds stupid, my point I am making is what happend to the aircraft.
Boeing 757 is not a small aircraft. It wont just disintergrate on impact

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Originally posted by Marc Summers ..it said something about a mind control machine...

Yeah the TV or PC is not a mind control device.

As regards the condition of the hemispheres themselves, an alert state of the nervous system is absolutely essential for the formation of a new conditioned reflex. If the dog is mostly drowsy during the experiments, the establishment of a conditioned reflex becomes a long and tedious process, and in extreme cases is impossible to accomplish. The hemispheres must, however, be free from any other nervous activity, and therefore in building up a new conditioned reflex it is important to avoid foreign stimuli which, falling upon the animal, would cause other reactions of their own. If this is not attended to, the establishment of a conditioned reflex is very difficult, if not impossible.
Conditioned Reflexes: An Investigation of the Physiological Activity of the Cerebral Cortex
Ivan P. Pavlov

*bell rings*

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I have just watched it again myself for interest sake, and the mind control machine appears to me to be refering to an organisation, not some robotic brain washing device...

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Yeah the TV or PC is not a mind control device. As regards the condition of the hemispheres themselves, an alert state of the nervous system is absolutely essential for the formation of a new conditioned reflex. If the dog is mostly drowsy during the experiments, the establishment of a conditioned reflex becomes a long and tedious process, and in extreme cases is impossible to accomplish. The hemispheres must, however, be free from any other nervous activity, and therefore in building up a new conditioned reflex it is important to avoid foreign stimuli which, falling upon the animal, would cause other reactions of their own. If this is not attended to, the establishment of a conditioned reflex is very difficult, if not impossible. Conditioned Reflexes: An Investigation of the Physiological Activity of the Cerebral Cortex Ivan P. Pavlov *bell rings*

What, so they give a dog sleeping pills, keep it awake and the try and teach it to sit...

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It all started with a guy named Pavlov. He had this dog...the rest is history.

Ivan Pavlov – Biography

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Originally posted by skot_e Boeing 757 is not a small aircraft. It wont just disintergrate on impact

omg, it happens all the time in jet-liner crashes! Come on! Get real! It's not un-common to find virtually nothing larger than a football after a particularly violent crash. Do you really think the powers that be would blow up their own headquarters, with their own people in there, in order to have cause to start a war or whatever the hell it is you think they needed justification for?

As for the video's references to "windows still in tact", etc...that part of the Pentagon had very recently been re-enforced as part of a strenghthening and retro-fitting program. The windows were blast proof.

I don't why I'm even debating this with you.......I must be going nuts.

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Originally posted by donnybrasco omg, it happens all the time in jet-liner crashes! Come on! Get real! It's not un-common to find virtually nothing larger than a football after a particularly violent crash. Do you really think the powers that be would blow up their own headquarters, with their own people in there, in order to have cause to start a war or whatever the hell it is you think they needed justification for?

THANK YOU!

Finally someone in this thread has some sense

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Originally posted by donnybrasco omg, it happens all the time in jet-liner crashes! Come on! Get real! It's not un-common to find virtually nothing larger than a football after a particularly violent crash. Do you really think the powers that be would blow up their own headquarters, with their own people in there, in order to have cause to start a war or whatever the hell it is you think they needed justification for? As for the video's references to "windows still in tact", etc...that part of the Pentagon had very recently been re-enforced as part of a strenghthening and retro-fitting program. The windows were blast proof. I don't why I'm even debating this with you.......I must be going nuts.

Yeah the building is reinforced, that's why when the plane hit the wings at the very least would have shawn off, or the engines would have been left behind or something! But no, no debris at all.
Even in New York one of the engines fell to the ground when the plane hit.