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You obviously dont think its wrong. So what is RIGHT about it?

I'm not saying that it isn't wrong, and I'm not saying it isn't right.
This is one of those grey-areas often spoken of.

I'm just trying to convey that if done correctly, they are not as bad as people would have have other people believe.

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yeah, I guess I see your point. I know a couple of people that do it moderately and do it to extremes. You wouldnt know the mods do it but the xtremes...wow. I guess its just from being around too many people who started 10 years ago and now they are fucked up because it progressed and progressed and progressed. A lot of friends say dont even start down the path, they used to be like me, etc etc etc. I just think humans have a very strong proclivity to the "foot in the door" syndrome. A huge expirement was done involving electric shock therapy that wasnt hooked up. heres the set up

1) A person who is told they will be either teacher or learner
2) the expiremental subject always got teacher
3) They had a panel of 12 switches in front of them
4) They were told when the learner gets it wrong shock him in increasingly powerful doses (higher switches)
5) they were told that the last one would cause permanent physical harm.
6) When asked 90% of the people responded with a NO to "would you flip the last switch", 10% to yes I will
7) As they go to switch 8 the learner would fake screaming pain
8) they all got to 11
9) 60% of people who said NO threw the last switch

once you start doing a little bit and a little bit more things start seeming not to be so bad. You get used to it. You say "I know I said I wouldnt do 6 pills a night, but that was when I was young and didnt know much bla bla bla". You justify the action because you want to do it. over 50% of the population would cause PERMANENT PHYSICAL HARM for an expirement! Think about what they are willing to do when the effect is Pleasure! I just dont think in the long run you can win against drugs.

Good point

It's just that I want people who dont do it to not look down on those of us who do. It's a generalisation that anyone who takes drugs is a terrible person, and I want people to realise some of us who do are pretty darn decent people.

Cheerz
kr00t0n

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Oh definitely. Pretty much every friend ive ever had has done drugs to one degree or another. Drugs in no way means you are a bad person. I personally think its a wrong choice, but we are definitely talking degrees here. Poppin a pill once a month, Its more along the lines of "I wouldnt do it" but if you are havin fun and nothing bad is happening go for it. The time I step in is when frequency and dosage starts increasing. I just dont want to see good people get addicted and messed up

I have a question, does anyone think the popularity of parties/raves would change if all the sudden all of the XTC in the world disappeared!?!?

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Originally posted by randummboy dude.. mixing energy drinks with alcohol is extremly bad for you.. it causes severe heart problems!!!

Could someone post some info on this???
Is it true????

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Originally posted by TECHno addict Could someone post some info on this??? Is it true????

"nuh, I do it all the time, it's all good"

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Originally posted by TECHno addict I have a question, does anyone think the popularity of parties/raves would change if all the sudden all of the XTC in the world disappeared!?!?

Hmm.. Simple answer: No. Drugs can easily be replaced with alternatives. The popularity is not always with the drugs, but the music, the vibe, and the people.

Innominate: There's not too many of you living on this dustball. Your experience and your ability to discern is on a different higher plane than most of the users out there. NOt too many of us in this world can come near such blissful states. it is truly a blessed gift as I have learn.. Sometimes, I find it a curse.

U4ea: thankyou very much for your kind comments. I am quite humbled. may the world be a place rich in the good things that peoiple do, not just for themselves but for others and the infinite subtle variations of the natural worlds.

My love to all and that they may be safe.

jc

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i dont want to read all 7 pages of this, but i did mdma VERY OFTEN for 2 years, and i am now taking medication to fix the fucked up damage it did to my seratonin levels... as well as serious emotional issues caused by it.

people never stop to think about what this will do long term. let me remind everyone, it WILL fuck you up mentally.

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Originally posted by sothis i dont want to read all 7 pages of this, but i did mdma VERY OFTEN for 2 years, and i am now taking medication to fix the fucked up damage it did to my seratonin levels... as well as serious emotional issues caused by it. people never stop to think about what this will do long term. let me remind everyone, it WILL fuck you up mentally.

Im sorry to hear that.......ive never heard of treatments for XTC use before. What do they prescribe you for this?

there isnt a treatment for mdma use, its not that general.

ever since i did hardcore amounts of mdma, i became extremely irritable, would freak/stress out so much over stupid shit, was totally emotional, blah blah blah. it didnt even feel like me. but it never started until i took so much of that evil drug. i would feel myself going out of control emotionally when ANYTHING happened.

i finally went in. ive been on lithium, buspar, etc to try to help with the emotional shit. finally i tried what im on now, its called risperdal. its an anti-psychotic (sounds scary huh?) but im taking 1/3 of the normal dose that someone like that would take. basically it helps balance out your seratonin and dopeamine levels, which makes perfect sense why i am starting to feel normal again. its used in small doses (in general) with people who have anxiety/irritability/mood swing issues.

i wish i had been smart and realized this kind of shit can happen while i was taking 3 pills a weekend, every weekend, so i could have gotten around the consequences.

again kids. this drug might be fun, but its gonna fuck you up if you take it a lot. dont go there. its not fun.