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pkcRAISTLIN
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| quote: | Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
A very good point - the most successful anti-authority movements have always been peaceful.
At the risk of nerding out, look at the history of the ANC in South Africa. The initial thinking was that only violent revolution could move the security state there - if apartheid isn't an example of a state deserving protest, what is? But in the end, Mandela abandoned the pursuit of violence in favor of a peaceful movement, and in the end it was more successful than many believed possible at the time.
Not only did the use of non-violence succeed in galvanizing opposition to the state, it also legitimized the movement itself, which is why you saw more or less coalition support behind the ANC after the end of apartheid.
In any case, the belief that guns in the hands of the populace is a good and just balance against the state is not only outdated, but extraordinarily naive and dangerous. |
as well as northern ireland. they achieved far more at the ballot box and through negotiation than they did with bombs and guns. Similarly, the revolution in china will (imo) occur because of the growing middle class, infrastructure and information access, not through force of arms.
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Dec-17-2008 22:55
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UWM
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Ladies and gentlemen - a round of applause for Krypton!
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Dec-17-2008 22:58
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FromAbove
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God this thread sucks. I hate it when idiots like all of you try to sound smart. It's cringe-inducing.
Bye.
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Dec-17-2008 22:58
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UWM
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| quote: | Originally posted by FromAbove
God this thread sucks. I hate it when idiots like all of you try to sound smart. It's cringe-inducing.
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You're on to something here. It's much better when people have to make up stories of spending time with women outside of the internet.
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Dec-17-2008 23:00
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FromAbove
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Making up stories. See that's what's so sad about you people. When a normal guy like me starts talking about being with women you think it's made up. It's my life.
You smell that. That's my shit.
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Dec-17-2008 23:03
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