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Sammy V
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This spending bill sucks ass...the Congressional Budget Office estimated that with interest, this plan equals $30,000 per American household. I for one could use $30,000...who's with me?

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Allayla
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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
I have never once claimed to be a republican, nor am I registered as one.

Really?
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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen

Im registered republican, and I voted for Al Gore in 2000, and Ralph Nadar in 2008. All Im saying is Obama and the democrats are not taking over the world. 4 short years ago the democrats were in bad shape. Power has been shifting for centuries between the two parties, and it will continue to shift. Super Obama isnt going to change that

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djjoshuaallen
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Registered: May 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by Sammy V
This spending bill sucks ass...the Congressional Budget Office estimated that with interest, this plan equals $30,000 per American household. I for one could use $30,000...who's with me?


LOL

I would think spending would pick up, right along with job creation and business investment

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djjoshuaallen
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Originally posted by starboy
Really? [IMG]


yep its true, Im now a registered independant. I was registered as a republican when i voted for Al Gore in 2000, that was the point of the post.

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Clovis
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quote:
Originally posted by Sammy V
This spending bill sucks ass...the Congressional Budget Office estimated that with interest, this plan equals $30,000 per American household. I for one could use $30,000...who's with me?



Because that 30,000 dollars isn't going to keep hospitals open, fund public construction projects, or ensure school teachers aren't laid off.

You can't simplify it like that.


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Allayla
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Registered: Mar 2005
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yes, the artilce was sent to my email by a friend, the link to the website was not. While the analytical portion of the article was not the important part, the outlined spending contained in the bill is undeniable.

But you do admit that you share the views spewed out in this neo-conservative website, yes?

Just checking. Because you said that here:

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen

Also, i deeply apologize if there are some in the news media that actually share my point of view and ideas.


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djjoshuaallen
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Originally posted by starboy
But you do admit that you share the views spewed out in this neo-conservative website, yes?

Just checking. Because you said that here:



give it up, FAIL

You = "Neo-conservitive websites"

Me = "There are some in the NEWS MEDIA that actually share my point of view and ideas"

If the news media is limited to neo-consevitive websites, then explain their helping hand in the election of Barak Obama. Your negative attacks towards me produce nothing, and educate nobody.


The article i posted was meant to illuminate billions in wasteful pork included in this bill, i challenge you to show how the actual bills expenditure differ from those in the article, or that they are absent. I made little if any reference to the assesments brought forward by the author of that article

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Sammy V
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Originally posted by Clovis
Because that 30,000 dollars isn't going to keep hospitals open, fund public construction projects, or ensure school teachers aren't laid off.

You can't simplify it like that.


The root problem with our economy is a lack of private sector jobs, and there are many reasons for that. Americans don't have money...for mortgages, credit cards, cars, and discretionary spending. That means businesses will close, many already are. And because businesses close...you guessed it, the commercial real estate market is next and it will be horrendous. Bush spent a trillion last year for stimulus (spring), housing (summer), and wall street (fall) and all that money is gone and we are no better for it. Obama will do the same...watch, this bill will not improve anything.

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Sammy V
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quote:
Originally posted by djjoshuaallen
Geeze guy ive it up, FAIL

You = "Neo-conservitive websites"

Me = "There are some in the NEWS MEDIA that actually share my point of view and ideas"

If the news media consists of neo-consevitive websites, then explain their helping hand in the election of Barak Obama. Your negative attacks towards me produce nothing, and educate nobody.


The article i posted was meant to illuminate billions in wasteful pork included in this bill, i challenge you to show how the actual bills expenditure differ from those in the article. I made little if any reference to the assesments brought forward by the author of that article


I concur...I watch CNBC, Fox Business, Fox, and CNN every morning and on my days off. The only people supporting this bill are BRack supporters and those who will directly benefit from this bill.

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Allayla
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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen

I'm not attacking you. It's just that your words seem to be twisted up a bit. Whatever.


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Originally posted by Sammy V
I concur...I watch CNBC, Fox Business, Fox, and CNN every morning and on my days off. The only people supporting this bill are BRack supporters and those who will directly benefit from this bill.

This bill actaully has a large public support, and is growing by the day 59% aprove, 38% dissaprove, with 67% aproving of the way obama is handling the bill.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114691/O...ty-Support.aspx

Also, since dems took over, congress' aproval rating has been increasing sharply by the day

http://www.gallup.com/poll/114670/C...ting-Jumps.aspx

Nice try.


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Sammy V
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Newt Gingrich for President 2012...this is his plan.

1.Payroll Tax Stimulus. With a temporary new tax credit to offset 50% of the payroll tax, every small business would have more money, and all Americans would take home more of what they earn.


2.Real Middle-Income Tax Relief. Reduce the marginal tax rate of 25% down to 15%, in effect establishing a flat-rate tax of 15% for close to 9 out of 10 American workers.


3.Reduce the Business Tax Rate. Match Ireland’s rate of 12.5% to keep more jobs in America.


4.Homeowner’s Assistance. Provide tax credit incentives to responsible home buyers so they can keep their homes.


5.Control Spending So We Can Move to a Balanced Budget. This begins with eliminating Congressional earmarks and wasteful pork-barrel spending.


6.No State Aid Without Protection From Fraud. Require state governments to adopt anti-fraud and anti-theft policies before giving them more money.


7.More American Energy Now. Explore for more American oil and gas and invest in affordable energy for the future, including clean coal, ethanol, nuclear power and renewable fuels.


8.Abolish Taxes on Capital Gains. Match China, Singapore and many other competitors. More investment in America means more jobs in America.


9.Protect the Rights of American Workers. We must protect a worker’s right to decide by secret ballot whether to join a union, and the worker’s right to freely negotiate. Forced unionism will kill jobs in America at a time when we can’t afford to lose them.


10.Replace Sarbanes-Oxley. This failed law is crippling entrepreneurial startups. Replace it with affordable rules that help create jobs, not destroy them.


11.Abolish the Death Tax. Americans should work for their families, not for Washington.


12.Invest in Energy and Transportation Infrastructure. This includes a new, expanded electric power grid and a 21st century air traffic control system that will reduce delays in air travel and save passengers, employees and airlines billions of dollars per year.
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