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wing
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Location: TERRA
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Mar-13-2009 04:03
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Clovis
techno jungle shit

Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles
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| quote: | Originally posted by stevėsto
that's the core of the problem. after years of clubbing, this stuff isnt new to you anymore. the clubber evolves from a happy, good vibe music loving person, open and accepting to any and all possibilities the future may hold ... to a chin stroking, overly critical, conservative conformist purist wanting each track to be more deep, underground, abstract, intelligent than the next.
i think the music is decent, not the greatest, and the visual physical element rockstar thing is interesting. but im not going to call him names for doing something different. |
I think it has much less to do with being jaded and far more to do with how deep you're into dance music. That and personal taste.
If you're REALLY into good cheese the Ralphs brand ultra pasturized factory Brie isn't quite going to be as satisfying as a Camembert you brought back from a farm in France.
It's the same way with many things art related. To me thats mostly what matters of taste are too, it's like, what satisfies you? What really intrigues and what doesn't? From movies, to food, to music it's all similar.
You can be satisfied with ridiculously formulaic, lazy and predictable dance music, or you can demand better and not settle for less, and not compromise for something that isn't as interesting.
I don't think dance music needs to be some ridiculous masterpiece or every track re-invent the wheel, but I do like to keep it at a minimum interesting, even if I can't really describe what that means.
Plus, when you're a DJ trying to play what you deem to be the best music out there, the way you think about and consume this music changes a LOT. You need that hunger to always try and find something better and more interesting to really stand out. You compromise less on "ok" tracks..etc.
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Mar-13-2009 04:18
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Joss Weatherby
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Registered: May 2008
Location: The Pacific Northwest, of course
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THEY ARE ALL FUCKING SQUATING DOWN TOGETHER LIKE A BUNCH OF SHEEP DUCKS!
That DC-10 video was seriously almost as bad as most of the jump-style videos out there.
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Mar-13-2009 04:52
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| quote: | Originally posted by enydo
I agree, I've enjoyed a lot of the Magda sets I've heard, I just think the track in the video lacks spirit or something, I dunno. |
yea its a very cold, sparse track. I would never in a million years buy a Duoteque record but if someone else wants to play it I'll get down.
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Mar-13-2009 12:41
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and btw that Abel Ramos video is the most offensive thing I've seen a dj do in a long time. Its a good thing he's far away from the people, most likely out of range of bottles being tossed.
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Mar-13-2009 12:45
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stevėsto
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Apr 2006
Location: St Petersburg, FL
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| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
I think it has much less to do with being jaded and far more to do with how deep you're into dance music. That and personal taste.
If you're REALLY into good cheese the Ralphs brand ultra pasturized factory Brie isn't quite going to be as satisfying as a Camembert you brought back from a farm in France.
It's the same way with many things art related. To me thats mostly what matters of taste are too, it's like, what satisfies you? What really intrigues and what doesn't? From movies, to food, to music it's all similar.
You can be satisfied with ridiculously formulaic, lazy and predictable dance music, or you can demand better and not settle for less, and not compromise for something that isn't as interesting.
I don't think dance music needs to be some ridiculous masterpiece or every track re-invent the wheel, but I do like to keep it at a minimum interesting, even if I can't really describe what that means.
Plus, when you're a DJ trying to play what you deem to be the best music out there, the way you think about and consume this music changes a LOT. You need that hunger to always try and find something better and more interesting to really stand out. You compromise less on "ok" tracks..etc. |
thanks for that nice response. how ive always seen it, is an analogy to the visual art world.
for example, deep underground dance music would be something like:

and DJ Scooter would be:

if i were an abstract artist trying to make it in the art world that pulls in a small crowd at cafes and bars, and then i saw some new guy come along and make art that is less abstract but gets the job done and attracts a big crowd ... yea id be pissed too and insult it.
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Mar-13-2009 13:19
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wing
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Nov 2008
Location: TERRA
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Mar-13-2009 14:49
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Faj27
Senior tranceaddict

Registered: Oct 2003
Location: The USofA
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| quote: | Originally posted by stevėsto
if i were an abstract artist trying to make it in the art world that pulls in a small crowd at cafes and bars, and then i saw some new guy come along and make art that is less abstract but gets the job done and attracts a big crowd ... yea id be pissed too and insult it. |
man, it's not about pulling in a small crowd, it's about pulling in the right crowd. if all you're worried about doing is pulling in a crowd, then most likely what you're doing will be forgotten once people get bored.
if you think abstract artists who started small like josef albers, jean arp, willem de kooning, damien hirst, wassily kadinsky, robert motherwell, philip guston, tony cragg and joan miro were jealous of the 'new guy coming along making less abstract art'...then you really don't have a clue of what the abstract expressionist movement was all about.
that being said, that star wars picture is pretty fucking awesome 
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