honestly, i'd be interested to see a study:

have two dudes raise a kid that is not of their own descent (but raised from birth).
have another two dudes raise a kid that is from one of their sperm.
have another two dudes raise two kids, one from each of their sperm.

and see what happens over an 18 year period.

(likewise for ladies)

i'm also curious about the gender of the child. if two dudes raised a chick, would that be different than two dudes who raised a little dude?

what if two women raised a boy vs a girl?

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Originally posted by tubularbills ...and see what happens over an 18 year period...

Sexual orientation not affected by any variable difference in your study. Who raises who, whose sperm comes from who... it doesn't make a difference. It'll be the same outcome as if you watched two heterosexual parents raise a child.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk My parents divorced when I was very young, so I was raised by my mum, and hardly ever saw my dad. None the less, I would consider myself to have quite a balanced perspective on things, and I have never had any identities with my 'identity', as you put it. Am I an exception to some kind of rule?

my sister went through two divorces and raised four kids on her own. she never really had any relationship with her father, he was an alcoholic restaurant owner from portland, oregon; who also happened to hit and abuse my mom. she lived with him for about six years - it was during the last months of her relationship that things got ugly. She decided to run away from the house (and country) vowing never to return until both my sister and I were old enough.

My sister had many many problems while growing up, most of them being identity problems (not knowing most of her father's family except for her grandmother), and my mother was also studying in washington d.c while my sister was raised by my grandmother and grandfather (mother's side)

my parents never got married (my mother never really divorced her first husband), and my dad had many affairs throughout his relationship with mom. i don't know if i turned out good or not; only time will tell...

what if two homosexual men would've raised my four nephews and nieces? what if two homosexual men would've raised my sister? what if two homosexual would have raised me? no one knows the outcome of that...

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You know. to tell you the truth, here in Ukraine the situation with homophobia is pretty bad. Nevertheless, besides accepting homosexuality I have frequently advocated for the rights and freedoms of homosexuals in relevant discussions and disputes, clearly understanding that homosexuality should not be treated (and fought) like a disease, a mental illness (you all know that homosexuality has been recalled from APA and UN lists of mental illnesses). But it's hard to stay so liberal-minded when fags try to deform the meaning of a family. Yes! A family is a mother and a father (two obligatory role models with natural sexual orientation). You can call me conservative in this regard. Conservative thinking is not always a negative thing, as a lot of people might think in the Western society. You can't just change things for the sake of change, for the sake of novelty and freshness. But that's just my opinion. And all opinions are equal. Now stop calling me a homophobe, you thickheads.

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Originally posted by tubularbills honestly, i'd be interested to see a study: have two dudes raise a kid that is not of their own descent (but raised from birth). have another two dudes raise a kid that is from one of their sperm. have another two dudes raise two kids, one from each of their sperm. and see what happens over an 18 year period. (likewise for ladies)

Ya, nobody would pay for that.

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear Now stop calling me a homophobe, you thickheads.

But you are. You say all this stuff about being understanding and supportive of homosexuality then you use the word "but" and it all goes out the window.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

Dear Boris_the_bear,

Your new name is Boris_the_Faggot. And now I'll flame the crap out of you.

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BUT you go further. you want everyone to glorify and praise that sacred sexual preference of yours.

Who is glorifying what? You, just like the actors in that commercial who aren't going anywhere as actors anymore, are making up a counter-argument that doesn't exist. Absolutely no one wants everyone to glorify and praise gayness. In fact gay people want you to leave them alone. But you don't, because you're are psychologically sick. I don't even know why you have access to a computer.

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And you fucking deny that same-sex attraction is an ABNORMALITY, a DEVIATION (a PATHOLOGY, be it genetic or acquired) from the way nature meant it to be.

Evolutionary speaking yes homosexuality is a dead end. So is the inability to make children an evolutionary dead end. Plenty of straight people can't produce children. But neither you nor any of your homophobic psychologically fucked friends can make that correlation or generalization can you? No, because it's not about evolutionary dead ends or deviations from how our species propagates; it's about making you feel more comfortable about yourself because you hate homosexuals based on absolutely nothing logical. How do you live with yourself knowing that you're so fucking stupid?

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Nobody says it's wrong to be gay. There's nothing you can do with it if you become gay anyway. If I were gay, I'd be gay. Simple as that. But IT IS NOT a normal state and SHOULD NOT be artificially spread like some sort of upgrade/advantage for a human being.

OMG you're right, gays don't want to just marry and have children, they want to UPGRADE to superhumans. In fact, I just want to shove my dick in your eye-socket right now. Is that ok?

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I don't honestly care about you fucking each other up the bum, but I DO CARE for the children who are born normal (cause being straight IS a normal state of a human being) and ARTIFICIALLY deformed by their gay "parents" in the course of being brought up (it is almost inevitable when a kid grows up with two gay dads, for christ's sake!!).

I honestly don't care if you shove your disgusting little prick into some drunk chicks vag, but you have just proven to the c0r that you are worse than a circuit-party-going, cocaine-sniffing, bareback-orgy AIDS-infested queeny-screemy fag. ARTIFICIAL insemination happens with STRAIGHT couples too. But again it isn't about deviations, it's about you being a complete homophobe. Congratulations, you're officially brain-dead.

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so all those of you who hurry with calling me a stoneage homophobe - live on, you stupid one-cell bacteria. read your posts. analyze the grounds on which you labeled me "homophobic". Use your fucking brain.

I'll give you this much: at least you try to "tolerate" fags. I don't even tolerate people who spew the shit you just said to my face. Thankfully no one has since I came out.

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Originally posted by boris_the_bear You know. to tell you the truth, here in Ukraine the situation with homophobia is pretty bad.

Oh, well that explains why you're so stupid. You can't help but to belong to a mentality of a group that's a bastardized off-shoot of a Russian nation. I guess there really is no point in arguing with you then because you can't help being a homophobe. You belong to a country that's already fucking stupid.

I guess it would make me even by saying that I don't think Ukrainians should be raising children since most of them have oddly-shaped heads, giant noses, disproportionate facial features, and smell like 5-week old cum. I'm almost certain that these qualities shouldn't be passed on to the next generation. So please, stop advocating your sick and twisting deformities to everyone. Much appreciated.

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Nevertheless, besides accepting homosexuality I have frequently advocated for the rights and freedoms of homosexuals in relevant discussions and disputes

Oh thanks massah. You mean I can drink from the white fountain but still can't raise white children? Well at least you advocated some rights.

Advocating some rights but not others doesn't make you open-minded. You're still a homophobe. And you are still retarded. Probably ugly too which doesn't help.

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But it's hard to stay so liberal-minded when fags try to deform the meaning of a family. Yes! A family is a mother and a father (two obligatory role models with natural sexual orientation).

It's hard to take you seriously when you think you're so open-minded but then say that gays raising children is an "ARTIFICIALLY deformed" concept. Yup, those are your words. And that's why no one cares about what you think you've done to help gays, because you're existence just hurts them.

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