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Originally posted by cronodevir everything Cubase does, FLStudio 8 can't.

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DnB, Jungle are also electronic music.

Pop [britney spears and stuff] is also electronic music.

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Originally posted by Kismet7 I didnt know hip hop was electronic music? Is it now?

They use the same sequencers and same sort of equipment we do. How is that not electronic?

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And Trance pulls far larger crowds and is listened to far more than House music.

Nope. There is this illusion because you have a few trance DJs that are really, really big and able to pull a massive crowd, so they make the scene look more popular than it actually is. But in reality more people are listening to house. The "superstar DJ" thing in trance is just a leftover from the late '90s when trance temporarily blew up really big.

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Originally posted by Subtle fixed

Your right, flstudio 8 can't make its pinao roll as shitty as cubase's

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Originally posted by mysticalninja yes also, go look at the current listener amounts on di.fm ... says something about popularity.

di.fm? is a barometer of popularity? On TA Minimal Techno was most talked about genre a year ago, now its Deep House, most popular too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNfgMOr22S0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twyfUeLT1MQ

^More concrete proof of popularity, and there are hundreds of videos like that of different events, and only a fraction for genres like House or Techno. So why are you guys trying to change a music, that many people are very much enjoying outside of TA already?

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Originally posted by cronodevir DnB, Jungle are also electronic music. Pop [britney spears and stuff] is also electronic music.

yeah some of her beats are produced by the neptunes, same guys who make all the new snoop dogg beats (drop it like its hot), who cares? wYou're the "oh somethings popular i'll be a cool unique snow flake and not like it" type.

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Last edited by mysticalninja on May-12-2009 at 10:15

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles They use the same sequencers and same sort of equipment we do. How is that not electronic? Nope. There is this illusion because you have a few trance DJs that are really, really big and able to pull a massive crowd, so they make the scene look more popular than it actually is. But in reality more people are listening to house. The "superstar DJ" thing in trance is just a leftover from the late '90s when trance temporarily blew up really big.

I actually noticed that too. For everyone 1 person I tell I like trance prob around 4 people tell me they like house.

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Originally posted by Kismet7 di.fm? is a barometer of popularity? On TA Minimal Techno was most talked about genre a year ago, now its Deep House, most popular too? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNfgMOr22S0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twyfUeLT1MQ ^More concrete proof of popularity, and there are hundreds of videos like that of different events, and only a fraction for genres like House or Techno. So why are you guys trying to change a music, that many people are very much enjoying outside of TA already?

o_O if you had actually checked you'd see i was backing you up. trance is far more popular than house on di.fm

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Originally posted by cronodevir Mutlicore support is pretty much not relevant to most. Again, something no one has given any evidence for. Steam stats are most gaming PCs, not audio production PCs, so using those provides no basis for this argument. Ableton is pretty much unanimous in that it gets worse every version. Reason lacks vsti support, ergo is blows. And Cubase does nothing FLStudio 8 can't. Who said melody and harmony are the same? And yes, melody doesn't have to be based on a specific chord progression. And yes, Proprietary model will not last. Wow, So I make groundbreaking sounds? My reputation proceeds me!

Making electronic music involves technology & multicore provides ease and less headache for the ones taking advantage of it. Why don't you go back to the stone age and rediscover the wheel & use that to go around...instead of your car or taking the public transit?

Your comment about ableton will be laughed at by all those who use it. Let me on the other hand laugh at you for complaining why Reason doesn't have vsts. You claim you knew bout sound engineering. Do you realise that reason's instruments are designed like hardware and allow routing via cables.
If you were to include a 3rd party vst, like Albino3, how would you route for example a 'matrix' to the 'cv' inputs of Albino3 (there aren't any)..or better yet, how would you even get Albino3 to route to the mixer. Do you really think Rob Papen, Native Instruments, Arturia, etc.. are going to come out with a Reason compatible version?

Cubase has an inbuilt audio editor, where you can mangle the wave sounds, does FL have it? I like both software. They each have something to offer the users. So, let's not start the 'this is better than that' argument.

Also, if i can remember clearly, you said you make make better music than someone else on this thread. Which is why I'm still waiting for your 'better than someone else's' track? Then we can all decide if it's groundbreaking. Fair enough?

for the luls, here's Cronodevir's album. http://www.sendspace.com/file/xw319j

the delicate use of trancegate and dblueglitch is really inspiring

honestly, i think his entire time spent on this forum has just been one massive trolling.

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Last edited by mysticalninja on May-12-2009 at 04:45

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Originally posted by Kismet7 More concrete proof of popularity, and there are hundreds of videos like that of different events, and only a fraction for genres like House or Techno. So why are you guys trying to change a music, that many people are very much enjoying outside of TA already?

House and techno aren't based around massive one-off events and tours like trance is. They're more about regular club nights. You will be hard pressed to find regular club nights for trance outside of a few places in Europe. Clubs in the U.S. overwhelmingly play house and hip hop, with a few of them doing techno or drum and bass. The fact that there's a huge event once in a while when Tiesto wanders through doesn't change that.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles They use the same sequencers and same sort of equipment we do. How is that not electronic? Nope. There is this illusion because you have a few trance DJs that are really, really big and able to pull a massive crowd, so they make the scene look more popular than it actually is. But in reality more people are listening to house. The "superstar DJ" thing in trance is just a leftover from the late '90s when trance temporarily blew up really big.

SO I can go to Barnes and pick up a Hip Hop album in the Electronic Music section? Rock music uses a kick drum so does Electronic music, zomg its all Electonic musics? NM useless argument.

And the thousands of people I see playing a Trance song and not a House song on their myspaces? Im talking about randoms, why are they playing Trance instead of House tracks? Surely if House was more popular, it would have reached these randoms that have a Trance song in their playlist next to their pop and hip hop. Why don't House Acts sell out huge arenas if more people listen to House, dont people have the same passion for music to go out and listen to the music they enjoy live? Where is your proof?

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