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Originally posted by Slylee and honestly jay, the whole part about working for others and meeting their needs without necessarily getting paid for it every time is one of the beautiful reasons why i know i'll be successful in that industry. because i'm a schmuck who actually really likes helping others and i don't always expect something in return lol i know i'll have a great reputation in real estate. 100% confident in that.

you are getting closer but are still not there.

you can never be "a schmuck" , because even if it is not money you get something out of them that you can use.

a schmuck is the guy that says ok next. in sales you may help others, but the successful sales people always help themselves first without the client realizing it.

always expect something in return, or else you will fail at sales.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

Jayme makes me horny.

i just love talking sales. You would be amazed at how simple it can be to pull them off if you have the right frame of mind and control the client.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

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Originally posted by lenazi of course, but follow up something via personal experience and not opinion

What are you talking about, opinion? My boyfriend's dad is a successful business man..business OWNER. And he didn't do it by sacrificing a good reputation. In fact it's exactly why he's still at the top of his industry - because people trust and respect him, and know that he's got a good reputation. Not because he's practicing "business/econ 101".

Repeat customers are what keep people in business...and I'm pretty sure you don't build the foundation of a good relationship on "attaining objectives and meeting goals". People want to know that the person they're dealing with year after year has something more than their own interests invested in the business relationship.

well i'm sure i'll learn the ropes when i get my license and start working at a firm. i've never done any sort of sales related work in my adult life. in fact, i hate sales people and i never thought i'd have it in me. but it seems i really have a knack for it as long as i believe in the product and i'm also a natural at networking and never realized it until lately when family and friends keep pointing it out. i tend to see the positive in things and i'm pretty persuasive too. i think homes is a good place to start in sales for me. it helps having patrick on my team too

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Originally posted by jennypie Repeat customers are what keep people in business...and I'm pretty sure you don't build the foundation of a good relationship on "attaining objectives and meeting goals". People want to know that the person they're dealing with year after year has something more than their own interests invested in the business relationship.

bingo. patrick gets work strictly by word of mouth. and he gets A LOT of work these days. that has to show for something.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

you are not completely off base jenny, but it isn't that simple.

what kind of business, and what is his phone number?

repeat customers are a very important part of keeping your book busy. You still always need to look for new avenues of revenue, unless you are satisfied with making x and not wanting to make more.

everyone wants to make more.

everyone.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

Distribution, and they have an 800 number. It's not some peanuts company, lol. They have international clients.

jamie the simplest advice i can ever give you is to "ask for the sale".

you would be amazed at how some people expect others to come to a decision on their own time.

ask for the sale and have that paper (put the pen on the where they sign line, it sounds silly but it is a great subconscious cue to move ahead) out. even if they don't take it, i can tell you that you will get an extra sale that you might have not at least 10% of the time.

it is a numbers game. 20 to 80 ratio. You can have good days, you can have bad, but the numbers never lie.

I'm not working in telemarketing btw

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On No, but I also don't drink out of a fucking sippy-cup you goddamned Appalachian.

And you didn't ever answer my question about your sense of authority on the matter. Isn't your degree in classics?

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Originally posted by jennypie Again, don't worry about. Friendships come and go regardless. Who knows, maybe it would have ended sooner had they NOT brought business into it.

exactly friendships do come and go, some are worth keeping and in this case i thought it would be since you mentioned they go far back and the guy brings business, so you can shrug off him being an asshole if in the end he delivers money, as shallow as it sounds.

But let me be clear, im not saying take it up the ass because he brings in money, of course if the person you work with is a complete asshole and has no respect for you, fucks up sales with clients, lacks professional ethics, then it is not worth it, especially if you know you can move forward without their cooperation. But if hes just full of himself and all you need to do is take him out for some drinks and listen to him blabber bullshit, w/e, look at it from the business perspective and not the values. Anyways you work in hospitality right?
im sure you deal with asshole clients every now and then and you have to suck it up and keep a straight face at all times.

but yeah in the end it's your BF who has to decide weather to keep him or not, and you should give him unbiased advice if he asks for it. Personally, i do not keep friends who fit your description of that dude, unless hes a big part of my income, then ill be real and consider it. You make him sound like a loser with nice toys though, so..what can i say.