Because the producers who says they are not making trance know this music today has nothing to do with idea of trance music from his beginning. So the best way to call it is to say it's "electronic dance music".
Or can you name any tracks these days that have entrancing atmosphere like those timeless classics had:
Oct-18-2009 12:58
Zak McKracken
Trance
Registered: Jun 2003
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
awesome, now i finaly understand what cheeze trance is about.
Oct-18-2009 13:09
Whirloop
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2003
Location: trance elite street
Re: Why is trance embarrasing?
quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
Something I've been thinking of for several years is that it seems like alot of trance producers themselves are ashamed of trance. In interviews they are often very eager to point out that they do not listen to trance. How often do you hear or read that a producer listens to trance music? I for one can't recall it at all through all the years. I remember in an interview with MIKE he said that he liked Justin Timberlake alot. Some producers don't even want to label there music as trance (PvD etc).
People in other scenes have no problem with this but trance people seem to be embarrased with being associated with trance music.
Are you ashamed to mention that you listen to trance? Or have you heard of any trance producer that have ever said that he listen trance?
Would be nice to hear some thoughts on this.
At least you know one that stands up for the trance scene
Registered: Oct 2009
Location: Beverly Hills, California
It is fascinating to me, in the first place, that people are bitching about Trance on a site called TRANCE Addict. And not to be confrontational, but I don't really understand why the people who prefer other EDM genres are even registered on here.
Moving on, however. It's also very annoying how almost every discussion turns into an argument about something called "quality" Trance or even more vaguely - "quality" Electronic Music. With that, of course, the names of AvB, Tiesto, PvD and alike seem to always be brought up. Now don't get me wrong - I myself can't stand DJ Sammy or Basshunter, as well as some of the other cheese that one sees labeled as "Trance" on beatport and elsewhere. But it strikes me more as a negativity coming from DJs that consider themselves "not mainstream", meaning: not nearly as successful and/or talented as the big guys. I believe there is NOTHING noble about choosing to play the most obscure and unknown tracks one can find and, as a consequence, boring the crowd to death (as Tiesto actually seems to do recently with his whole new whiteboy indietronica style). People go to the clubs to hear what THEY want to hear - not what YOU want to play. So, if your track lists consist mostly of the tracks that none of the big guys of Trance ever played or will ever play in their radio shows or live sets, or include in their compilations, the chances are that you are going to be stuck on TA typing hateful posts for a long time. Good luck to all.
P.S. It is entirely idiotic to not admit that you like something, when, in fact, you do. And if your purpose in life is to seem "cool", you should probably purchase a big-ass mouse hat and start producing dull, slow, soulless [Electro-]House music.
Oct-19-2009 06:00
ToF
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Melbourne, Australia
quote:
Originally posted by yROMAN
It is fascinating to me, in the first place, that people are bitching about Trance on a site called TRANCE Addict. And not to be confrontational, but I don't really understand why the people who prefer other EDM genres are even registered on here.
Moving on, however. It's also very annoying how almost every discussion turns into an argument about something called "quality" Trance or even more vaguely - "quality" Electronic Music. With that, of course, the names of AvB, Tiesto, PvD and alike seem to always be brought up. Now don't get me wrong - I myself can't stand DJ Sammy or Basshunter, as well as some of the other cheese that one sees labeled as "Trance" on beatport and elsewhere. But it strikes me more as a negativity coming from DJs that consider themselves "not mainstream", meaning: not nearly as successful and/or talented as the big guys. I believe there is NOTHING noble about choosing to play the most obscure and unknown tracks one can find and, as a consequence, boring the crowd to death (as Tiesto actually seems to do recently with his whole new whiteboy indietronica style). People go to the clubs to hear what THEY want to hear - not what YOU want to play. So, if your track lists consist mostly of the tracks that none of the big guys of Trance ever played or will ever play in their radio shows or live sets, or include in their compilations, the chances are that you are going to be stuck on TA typing hateful posts for a long time. Good luck to all.
P.S. It is entirely idiotic to not admit that you like something, when, in fact, you do. And if your purpose in life is to seem "cool", you should probably purchase a big-ass mouse hat and start producing dull, slow, soulless [Electro-]House music.
Did you just register to post that nonsense that has nothing to do with the topic? In addition, there are a number of logical flaws to your arguments but whatever.
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Oct-19-2009 06:07
yROMAN
tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2009
Location: Beverly Hills, California
quote:
Originally posted by ToF
Did you just register to post that nonsense that has nothing to do with the topic? In addition, there are a number of logical flaws to your arguments but whatever.
1. I answered the question of whomever started this thread.
2. I sure as hell didn't register to bitch about Trance.
Oct-19-2009 06:23
Light The Fuse
Training Tranceaddicts
Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Fist Pumping, Au
quote:
Originally posted by yROMAN
It is fascinating to me, in the first place, that people are bitching about Trance on a site called TRANCE Addict. And not to be confrontational, but I don't really understand why the people who prefer other EDM genres are even registered on here.
Moving on, however. It's also very annoying how almost every discussion turns into an argument about something called "quality" Trance or even more vaguely - "quality" Electronic Music. With that, of course, the names of AvB, Tiesto, PvD and alike seem to always be brought up. Now don't get me wrong - I myself can't stand DJ Sammy or Basshunter, as well as some of the other cheese that one sees labeled as "Trance" on beatport and elsewhere. But it strikes me more as a negativity coming from DJs that consider themselves "not mainstream", meaning: not nearly as successful and/or talented as the big guys. I believe there is NOTHING noble about choosing to play the most obscure and unknown tracks one can find and, as a consequence, boring the crowd to death (as Tiesto actually seems to do recently with his whole new whiteboy indietronica style). People go to the clubs to hear what THEY want to hear - not what YOU want to play. So, if your track lists consist mostly of the tracks that none of the big guys of Trance ever played or will ever play in their radio shows or live sets, or include in their compilations, the chances are that you are going to be stuck on TA typing hateful posts for a long time. Good luck to all.
P.S. It is entirely idiotic to not admit that you like something, when, in fact, you do. And if your purpose in life is to seem "cool", you should probably purchase a big-ass mouse hat and start producing dull, slow, soulless [Electro-]House music.
Originally posted by yROMAN
It is fascinating to me, in the first place, that people are bitching about Trance on a site called TRANCE Addict. And not to be confrontational, but I don't really understand why the people who prefer other EDM genres are even registered on here.
People learn to appreciate more music other than one specific genre. And sometimes grow to prefer them more. It happens.
I mean, it's safe to say that everyone eventually moves on from Raffi.
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Oct-19-2009 07:07
supersaw abuse
a child, literally
Registered: Apr 2009
Location: Michigan
quote:
Originally posted by yROMAN
It is fascinating to me, in the first place, that people are bitching about Trance on a site called TRANCE Addict. And not to be confrontational, but I don't really understand why the people who prefer other EDM genres are even registered on here.
Moving on, however. It's also very annoying how almost every discussion turns into an argument about something called "quality" Trance or even more vaguely - "quality" Electronic Music. With that, of course, the names of AvB, Tiesto, PvD and alike seem to always be brought up. Now don't get me wrong - I myself can't stand DJ Sammy or Basshunter, as well as some of the other cheese that one sees labeled as "Trance" on beatport and elsewhere. But it strikes me more as a negativity coming from DJs that consider themselves "not mainstream", meaning: not nearly as successful and/or talented as the big guys. I believe there is NOTHING noble about choosing to play the most obscure and unknown tracks one can find and, as a consequence, boring the crowd to death (as Tiesto actually seems to do recently with his whole new whiteboy indietronica style). People go to the clubs to hear what THEY want to hear - not what YOU want to play. So, if your track lists consist mostly of the tracks that none of the big guys of Trance ever played or will ever play in their radio shows or live sets, or include in their compilations, the chances are that you are going to be stuck on TA typing hateful posts for a long time. Good luck to all.
P.S. It is entirely idiotic to not admit that you like something, when, in fact, you do. And if your purpose in life is to seem "cool", you should probably purchase a big-ass mouse hat and start producing dull, slow, soulless [Electro-]House music.
"great post, not" -borat
Oct-19-2009 07:21
sparkidee
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Oct 2009
Location: Kent
Have to lol at the bitchiness on here, I came to this forum to chat to people about trance music I didnt know that people go on and on about it so much. Anyhoos back on topic.
Im an unsigned producer I like and produce all types of underground dance music. My main love is drum n bass (shoot me down its all dark and associated with bad things rar rar rar) I love house, hardcore, breakbeat, old skool hardcore and obviously I love trance.
I started listening to dance music at a very early age and caught the wave of old skool hardcore and the early trance stuff in the early to mid 90's. When people ask me what music I like I state the genre I like, drum n bass usually gets a thumbs down and so does hardcore. If however I talk about trance and explain that I like artists such as PVD, Armin, Above & Beyond, Sander Van Doorn they look at me oddly to start with but when they google the said artists they tend to like what they hear. It seems commercial poppy trance clouds everyones perceptive of what real trance is all about.
I agree at some points the genre as a whole has slipped under the radar of late but if them chart listeners stuck there necks out and looked underground then maybe they would find out what the music is properly about.
I went to a trance event friday night and had a great time! from 9pm till 5am I was stompin away to uplifting, hard and tech trance and I loved it! Im not afraid to say I like trance and Im not afraid to say I love all the other types of electronic dance music that Im into.
I think if you take the time to explain to people what a genre is all about and for them to open there eyes more then they will understand what your talking about.
IMO cascada, scooter and basshunter are for the teenagers who have no knowledge outside of the charts
Oct-20-2009 16:35
Trance-M
Since 1994 tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Limburg, Netherlands
But Scooter also made some great trance tracks e.g. Cosmos and Rhapsody in E. I'm far from teenager now...
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Oct-20-2009 21:04
MrJiveBoJingles
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.
Yes, Scooter made a few pretty good tracks. They also made dozens of other awful and annoying ones, even if they are amusing in a kind of ridiculous way.