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MrJiveBoJingles
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.
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Oct-29-2009 16:32
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Sand Leaper
Tension hunter

Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Oslo, Norway
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Oct-29-2009 18:14
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SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.

Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
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Oct-29-2009 19:59
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Arbiter
Naked Power Organ

Registered: May 2002
Location:
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| quote: | Originally posted by Slylee
i just don't see what the problem is about a school wanting students who play on sports teams and REPRESENT said school (outside of school mind you, when they go on away game trips) to abide by a code of conduct whether they are in school or out of school. most extra cirricular activities at schools have A LOT of activiites outside of the school and school hours.
to me, it's no different than girl scouts or something like that. if you want to be a part of it and be chosen to represent that group/school/company, act like a mature respectable teenager. if you don't, you're off the team. this shit happens all the time. guys getting kicked off the football team because they were caught drinking at parties or even got in trouble w/ the law outside of school. the school has a right to pick who gets to represent them and who doesn't. sucking dick shaped lollipops with dollar bills hanging out of your underwear on myspace is more like representing the local strip club. they didn't kick the girls out of school for good, they just can't play sports and had to publicly apologize to their coaches for letting them down (which is exactly what they did).
what's so hard to understand about that? lol |
I think there's a pretty significant difference between a private organization, which has no obligation to include anyone to begin with, choosing not to exclude people for arbitrary reasons and a public school, the services of which the girls are entitled to under state law, choosing to exclude them for an arbitrary reason.
In like vein, it is one thing for the state, after fulfilling the requirements of due process, to suspend or limit students' participation at school on the basis of violations of the state's criminal law and for a low-level bureaucrat, acting entirely on his own, to limit students' participation at school on the basis of nothing more than his bare declaration that their conduct "reflects discredit" upon the school.
Even if I were to think that, in this particular case, these girls deserved to be subject to some sort of sanction for their conduct, it does not at all follow that it is appropriate for their school principal to be playing the role of judge, jury, and executioner on the basis of nothing more than his own personal interpretation of a standard so vague and subjective as to place no practical limit on his discretion.
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Oct-29-2009 20:42
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Slylee
love lockdown

Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood, FL
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| quote: | Originally posted by Arbiter
I think there's a pretty significant difference between a private organization, which has no obligation to include anyone to begin with, choosing not to exclude people for arbitrary reasons and a public school, the services of which the girls are entitled to under state law, choosing to exclude them for an arbitrary reason.
In like vein, it is one thing for the state, after fulfilling the requirements of due process, to suspend or limit students' participation at school on the basis of violations of the state's criminal law and for a low-level bureaucrat, acting entirely on his own, to limit students' participation at school on the basis of nothing more than his bare declaration that their conduct "reflects discredit" upon the school.
Even if I were to think that, in this particular case, these girls deserved to be subject to some sort of sanction for their conduct, it does not at all follow that it is appropriate for their school principal to be playing the role of judge, jury, and executioner on the basis of nothing more than his own personal interpretation of a standard so vague and subjective as to place no practical limit on his discretion. |
i see. and what message do you think this whole situation is going to send to the girls? to the other kids at that school? what will it accomplish? and will it be positive?
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My soliloquy may be hard for some to swallow, but so is cod liver oil.
| quote: | Originally posted by notelfreak
man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone |
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Oct-29-2009 20:57
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Darkarbiter
Psysnob

Registered: Mar 2007
Location: Melbourne
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Oct-29-2009 21:13
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