Registered: Nov 2009
Location: You don't wanna know
quote:
Originally posted by Mattinsanity
I did not start the idea that progressive trance doesn't exist. that would be preposterous for one man to derail an entire genre. this has been said by people over the years
Really? Like who? Because I have NEVER heard anyone say that it doesn't exist. Never. At least not from anyone that mattered.
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Last edited by Summerlover on Oct-19-2011 at 15:43
Oct-19-2011 15:31
Mattsanity.
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Aug 2009
Location: Toronto
quote:
Originally posted by Lews
God dammit. You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
look brethren, what I've come to realize is that when the TA's back in 2002/2003 said progressive trance didn't exist, it wasn't because they thought it didn't exist whatsoever. it was because of shitty tracks being mislabeled as progressive trance. when so many shitty tracks were being called progressive trance like McProg, you have to question the existence of trance tracks that are innovative and progressive.
it should just be called mcdonalds trance - drop the prog from the name.
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Good idea, actually.
do all of you really want to ignore me? come on, you gotta appreciate my guts and balls by expressing these extreme opinions. none of you have the fortitude to even glare at the monitor like I do.
Oct-19-2011 15:53
Mattsanity.
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Aug 2009
Location: Toronto
quote:
Originally posted by Summerlover
Really? Like who? Because I have NEVER heard anyone say that it doesn't exist. Never. At least not from anyone that mattered.
well if it wasn't talked about anywhere else, it was debated in Music Discussion. people were even calling tracks just Progressive to avoid confusion if it's the house or trance side.
I wasn't a trance.nu guy, but I just searched up trance.nu and they were even having progressive house vs. trance battles too.
Trance is Trance. Progressive nowdays is not sounding like the original trance at all. Trance is more melodic, progressive is more club type of stuff.
Oct-19-2011 17:40
EddieZilker
This is the dance.
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Marijuana Sex Camp
quote:
Originally posted by Mattinsanity
do all of you really want to ignore me? come on, you gotta appreciate my guts and balls by expressing these extreme opinions. none of you have the fortitude to even glare at the monitor like I do.
And when you glare into the monitor, the monitor is glaring back. Not that you'd find Nietzsche controversial.
I highly doubt you'd ever be able to find Nietzsche, at all.
Originally posted by Mattinsanity
your guide is famous for being brilliantly humorous and satire,
Is that what you think? heh...okay.
quote:
Originally posted by Mattinsanity
sure they're classified as "progressive trance" but that track specifically does not sound progressive at all.
That's because progressive trance is not progressive. It is not a modifier within a distinctive aesthetic like "acid" or "deep", it is the intellectual extension of a genre within the framework of an existing genre of music. Progressive rock is an extension of rock. Progressive trance is an extension of trance. Progressive house (and it's progeny: Prog) is an extension of house. Progressive breaks is an extension of breaks. Four entirely different music branches that have absolutely nothing to do with each other, despite sharing the same name.
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Originally posted by Mattinsanity
is it just me or does that sound like hard trance?
No. At the time, this was hard trance.
aka the mid 90s German Trance sound: fast beats and screaming acid with either piano lines or strings or cathedral choruses. It would morph into Nu-NRG (and then hard dance, along with uk hard house and hardstyle) a few years later.
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Originally posted by Mattinsanity
but straight up, your 2nd example was shit.
I don't care what you think about it, I'm only showing you what it is.
This is probably the most famous progressive trance track:
The is my favorite progressive trance track:
Now fuck off.
Oct-20-2011 03:24
Sushipunk
Flickering, I roam
Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Chateau Verdafloor
quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Now fuck off.
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Oct-20-2011 03:35
srussell0018
Chaostician
Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Blumsberg
Wait who is Ishkur? I hear that name tossed around a lot.
Oct-20-2011 03:39
Mattsanity.
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Aug 2009
Location: Toronto
the genre branching, web designing mothafucka has spoken.
Ishkur, I'm not sure why you're mad at me. you must've gone through some bullshit outside of this forum. I'll respond to your post later.
Oct-20-2011 03:45
Sushipunk
Flickering, I roam
Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Chateau Verdafloor
quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Wait who is Ishkur? I hear that name tossed around a lot.
He wrote the somewhat infamous Guide to Eletronic Music.