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evil_cookie
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Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Toronto

quote:
Originally posted by newkicks
Great link!
...and if you just click on "thesaurus" you'll find "brain-teaser" listed as the sole definition for "riddle". It's synonymous, no way! Need a definition for that, too?


http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/riddle


I don't think you understand the difference between the definition of a word, as distinct from its associated synonyms. A word like happy, for instance, has many synonyms. But if I said "you look happy," would the same meaning hold if I said "you look intoxicated"--no it wouldn't. Synonyms only work when they are properly used in the right CONTEXT.

Old Post Feb-12-2010 06:51  Canada
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newkicks
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Registered: Nov 2009
Location: Canada

quote:
Originally posted by evil_cookie
I don't think you understand the difference between the definition of a word, as distinct from its associated synonyms. A word like happy, for instance, has many synonyms. But if I said "you look happy," would the same meaning hold if I said "you look intoxicated"--no it wouldn't. Synonyms only work when they are properly used in the right CONTEXT.


um, obviously not. I don't even know where to begin with your response, considering intoxicated and happy are not synonymous, but rather an example of causality (at times).


Anyway, all I said, and I don't even care to debate this anymore, is that a riddle is a type of brain-teaser. Brain-teaser, meaning "a puzzle or problem whose solution requires great ingenuity" (e.g. a riddle). I only referred to defintions to highlight their relationship.

So now, back to the brain-teasers, riddles, optical illusions, or whatever else is more worthwhile/interesting than this debate...


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Old Post Feb-12-2010 22:25  Canada
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LKD
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Registered: Aug 2001
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this debate is teasing my brain


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Old Post Feb-12-2010 22:27  United Arab Emirates
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DigiNut
You kids get off my lawn!



Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by newkicks
Anyway, all I said, and I don't even care to debate this anymore, is that a riddle is a type of brain-teaser. Brain-teaser, meaning "a puzzle or problem whose solution requires great ingenuity" (e.g. a riddle).

Ingenuity is creating something, solving a problem in an unusual way, the ability to think ahead multiple steps and mentally juggle several pieces of information at once. Riddles, or at least the ones presented here, don't require any ingenuity, they only require one to know the annoying "catch" to the question. There is only one solution, and it can't be logically inferred; either you've "heard that one" or you haven't.

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I only referred to defintions to highlight their relationship.

Apparently your thesaurus also lists "Wikipedia" as a synonym for "definition."


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newkicks
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Registered: Nov 2009
Location: Canada

Then you're willing to recognize riddles that haven't been ciruclated so widely to develop this "catch" as brain-teasers since they require ingenuity? But, at one point all these riddles required someone to think about the problem in a clever way, still do actually, if you don't have the punch line memorized/made known to you.

A brain-teaser, as the term simply states, is anything that teases the brain, such as riddles and optical illusions.


quote:
Apparently your thesaurus also lists "Wikipedia" as a synonym for "definition."


I think you mean as a synonym for "dictionary"...


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"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
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Last edited by newkicks on Feb-12-2010 at 23:18

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DigiNut
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quote:
Originally posted by newkicks
Then you're willing to recognize riddles that haven't been ciruclated so widely to develop this "catch" as brain-teasers since they require ingenuity?

No.

quote:
But, at one point all these riddles required someone to think about the problem in a clever way, still do actually, if you don't have the punch line memorized/made known to you.

Nobody ever "thinks" about riddles. They're basically really bad jokes, with the punchlines known only to the unfunny dorks who come up with them and later to the poor bastards who have to endure them. There is no cleverness whatsoever involved, unless one of the synonyms for "clever" is "asshole."

quote:
I think you mean as a synonym for "dictionary"...

Yes, brilliant, that was the joke. Sorry, riddle. Sorry, that's brain teaser.


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FunkyCrew
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Digi updated you damn schedule already!


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newkicks
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quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Nobody ever "thinks" about riddles. They're basically really bad jokes, with the punchlines known only to the unfunny dorks who come up with them and later to the poor bastards who have to endure them. There is no cleverness whatsoever involved, unless one of the synonyms for "clever" is "asshole."



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"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
*

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you guys are motherfucking partypoopers. go read a book or something!!!

edit - or better yet, give me a definition of THE !!!!


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LKD
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Registered: Aug 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty
you guys are motherfucking partypoopers. go read a book or something!!!

edit - or better yet, give me a definition of THE !!!!


I'd prefer a definition of time.


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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
Digi updated you damn schedule already!

The schedule is 100% correct when you take into account the time traveling I'll be doing.


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