Originally posted by Mad for Brad
ALso realize that sometimes , the point of listening to past music is not really for influence but also to realize what has been done. Having a firm idea of what has been done will help you stay away from cliches. Had most of the artists making melodic trance now realized that its been done, maybe they would of done something more interesting.
bingo this was my point it's fair to say most ideas have been done before new and old.
thinking outside the box is no easy thing its hard enough to make normal tracks let alone anything new or invative.
All of a sudden everyone seems to agree that almost everything has already been done. So it's time to turn to music theory 2.0 since all possible chord progressions have been turned to plucked arpeggios already? I would like to get a list having every classic trance track that has occupied these chord progressions, melodies, everything.
I expect it by this evening +2 gmt so I can start checking and memorizing the melodies that I can't use anymore, since they have been used already.
Anjunabeats signing 59 tracks that sound the same is one thing, but hey..
Aug-27-2010 16:20
JEO
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2010
Location: ATH
I've seen so many shit attempts from even known artists to sound "original". "I'm not trance.. I'm not house.. I'm not minimal.. I'm *artist name*, genres can't define me!" And still failing at it, or sounding extremely idiotic with fucking chromatic scale bleep bloops and no actual musical content at all. Just drums and blipblops saying "I am so original" through the speakers. That's the other end of it, and I hate it too.
Aug-27-2010 16:28
4everX
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Roma, italy
quote:
Originally posted by JEO
Anjunabeats signing 59 tracks that sound the same is one thing, but hey..
this is cause the A&Rs don't understand so much about music...they read only the name, i think...
If less is more think about how much more more would be.
-Frasier
Aug-27-2010 17:13
Beatflux
Rising Star in training
Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Planet Alf
quote:
Originally posted by JEO
I've seen so many shit attempts from even known artists to sound "original". "I'm not trance.. I'm not house.. I'm not minimal.. I'm *artist name*, genres can't define me!" And still failing at it, or sounding extremely idiotic with fucking chromatic scale bleep bloops and no actual musical content at all. Just drums and blipblops saying "I am so original" through the speakers. That's the other end of it, and I hate it too.
The genre switch is usually just as cliche. I can't think of any artists off the top of my head that made better music after a switch. Maybe someone else does?
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Originally posted by dj_alfi
change your avatar for fucks sake.
Aug-27-2010 17:15
JEO
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2010
Location: ATH
quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
Well you can say a lot of things but Anjunabeats/Anjunadeep are one of the very few labels holding on to what they believe in
Well don't get stuck on it. I know nothing about Anjuna and maybe shouldn't even talk about it, then I got to thinking you might even clarify what you are referring to with your post.
I said it solely because I saw the anjuna logo on many of the songs in the video by the op.
Aug-27-2010 19:02
owien
maverick
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: the south
quote:
Originally posted by JEO
All of a sudden everyone seems to agree that almost everything has already been done. So it's time to turn to music theory 2.0 since all possible chord progressions have been turned to plucked arpeggios already? I would like to get a list having every classic trance track that has occupied these chord progressions, melodies, everything.
I expect it by this evening +2 gmt so I can start checking and memorizing the melodies that I can't use anymore, since they have been used already.
Anjunabeats signing 59 tracks that sound the same is one thing, but hey..
because its all about what works and what people want to hear hence why shit sounds the same
Originally posted by Beatflux
The genre switch is usually just as cliche. I can't think of any artists off the top of my head that made better music after a switch. Maybe someone else does?
scot project's style has slightly shifted and he is still unique and extremely good.
Aug-27-2010 19:47
MrJiveBoJingles
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.
quote:
Originally posted by Beatflux
The genre switch is usually just as cliche. I can't think of any artists off the top of my head that made better music after a switch. Maybe someone else does?
I think many genre switches are the result of not-so-creative producers trying to hop on to the latest trend in order to stay in the cool kids club and keep selling records.
Aug-27-2010 20:02
Looney4Clooney
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Apr 2010
Location:
yup
difference between genre hopping trying to catch the tail end of a trend and artists that just explore beyond their current genre and incorporate new elements into their craft.
Aug-27-2010 21:01
Rodri Santos
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Sep 2009
Location: Milan
quote:
Originally posted by Mad for Brad
scot project's style has slightly shifted and he is still unique and extremely good.
Scot Project it's quite good in my opinion too, he was more like a hard trancer now more techy but his remixes of Global Code and Hartseer are awesome O.O
I think Sander van Doorn is original, he tries new sounds, new structures, melodies.... very underated as a producer, not really my taste but i have to recognize who is god at it.
Uplifting Trance is all the same... well Armada + Anjunabeats = 50% of the Trance industry right now and they sign crap after crap. Anjunabeats rejected the Florescence EP by Andy Blueman, which wasn't his best EP but wow Blueman makes Classical music and Trance blend together in a way very few people have achieved... While they sign tracks that you can listen and don't notice that the song has ended because it's bloody boring.
A good uplifting label is Blue Soho, i have lost the track of his releases this summer but looked more for the music than for the name... not very original tracks but at least where enjoyable.
Looking on my recent tracks i think this one is pretty original
The structure is the same, but has some unfrequent sounds that are always welcome