Boogy is calling to many bad penalties for us. It's starting to tick me off.

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Originally posted by DJ Eco Yeah, but we're talking about one of the greatest goaltenders in the history of the game. The fan base would set fire to Prudential Center if that happened, no matter what our opinion is of his current performance; he's retiring here, and the number 30 will be raised the day he does. Leetch and Messier aren't really parallel examples in my opinion.

I think they are parallel examples. Messier is the same status in NYC as Brodeur is to Jersey.

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Parise is okay? He's probably a top 10 forward in the NHL and it's not just us Devils fans saying that. Any team would be more than happy to take him and offer him a $6 million contract. I think we're gunna see some offer sheets when he becomes a RFA after this season.

He was playing ok this season. I know he's a great player, but he wasn't THAT impressive before he got injured this season.

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You're making crazy assumptions, man... If all the personnel that I listed were injured, the AHL players that would have to be called up would NOT be suitable replacements, for any team for that matter. You're saying Volchenkov is okay, Rolston and Salvador suck, Parise is okay. Whatever your opinion is of them, that's our TEAM, and the minor leaguers that are making up our team because of all of this obviously aren't getting the job done, nor can they be expected to.

The Rangers are basically the Hartford Wolf Pack right now in their third/fourth line and third d-pairing.

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The team the Rangers played the other night were the Albany Devils, not the New Jersey Devils: Alexander Vasyunov, Brad Mills, Stephen Gionta, Patrick Davis, Alex Urbom-Olivier Magnan, Matt Taormina. A month and a half ago in training camp, these were the players cut within the first 2 or 3 rounds of cuts and sent down to minors. And these are the guys we dressed up to play our fiercest rivals, the Rangers. OF COURSE we're going to get trampled..

You named only six AHLers. That means the other twelve guys are NHLers. That's not an AHL team then.

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Originally posted by DJ_Rafnel Boogy is calling to many bad penalties for us. It's starting to tick me off.

He's not intimidating as a fighter either. Shelley kicked his ass when the Rangers played the Flyers last week.

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Originally posted by osterzone He's not intimidating as a fighter either. Shelley kicked his ass when the Rangers played the Flyers last week.

6'8 and 260... personally...i wouldn't want to come near the guy.

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One last thing: if any of you are ever around Danbury, CT or Brooklyn, you owe it to yourself to go to a Federal Hockey League game. It's a new minor pro league that started up this year (federalhockeyleague.net) and its entertainment value is ridiculously high. And they have teams in both of those places.

I've been going to hockey games in Danbury since 2005 (when the UHL still existed there) and IMO it's the best place in the east coast to watch a hockey game. A million times better than the Garden, the old Meadowlands, the Coliseum, the Prudential Center...any northeast NHL arena easily.

The level of play in the FHL is slightly below the ECHL, but it makes up for it in the fact that it's old time hockey. Fights (lots of them). Open-ice hits. Interesting goals. Characters on each team. Fucking rowdy fans. Small arenas that are great for heckling. Creative chants and insults.

At Danbury you can stand around the side of the rink for the whole game, which is what I did on Saturday night. Here's what I got for my $12 ticket:

- A 6-1 victory for the Whalers
- Five fights, two of which were a couple feet away from me on the other side of the glass.
- The head coach of one team arguing with Danbury's assistant coach during the middle of the second period, which lead to a near-fight between them in the tunnel heading to one of the locker rooms. After the refs got through the scrum of players the coaches were standing on the benches mouthing off at each other. Danbury's assistant coach flipped the other guy off and got tossed.
- Danbury's goalie saving a penalty shot from a Broome player (the visiting team)
- A player for Broome slashing the back of the leg of Danbury's top player late in the third period, so it starts one of those Avery-like bench ordeals where they're leaning over the side talking shit during the game. One guy tried to reach over and grab the other guy.
- One of Broome's players getting rattled by the heckling of the fans so he starts talking back to them and they verbally shit on this guy.

Then you go back to watching the boring NHL where no punches are landed in fights and the scores are 2-1...it's not even a comparison which league is more fun.

Here's an old video of a league that used to involve Danbury, Brooklyn, and other teams in 2008 before going defunct. It was called the Eastern Pro Hockey League (EPHL). Video taken in Danbury. Danbury is in white and Brooklyn is in red.

Ehh...i love fights...but this just looks sorta pathetic to me.

It's like amateur wrestling night or something.

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Originally posted by DJ_Rafnel Ehh...i love fights...but this just looks sorta pathetic to me. It's like amateur wrestling night or something.

It's usually not that bad but you never see stuff like this in the NHL.

I'm not a fan of a lot of fights either (they're better in moderation), but the NHL really has no fighting. And the pros are so good they don't land any punches either.

You sure the NHL has no fights? How many fights can you possibly want?

Some games have 2 fights a period. I don't think ive seen a game in a while where there wasnt at least one fight either.

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Originally posted by DJ_Rafnel You sure the NHL has no fights? How many fights can you possibly want? Some games have 2 fights a period. I don't think ive seen a game in a while where there wasnt at least one fight either.

It depends what you view a fight as.

Like last night, when Prust "fought" Strachan, that wasn't a fight. It was 10 seconds of missed punches and one guy falling on top of another. And most NHL "fights" are like this.

Fights in the minor-pro and AHL levels are always better because the players don't know how to defend themselves as well, so you actually see punches landed. The minor leagues also still have that retribution mentality that the NHL doesn't have anymore.

In the minors if a guy takes a run at one of your players, it almost always results in a fight regardless of the score of the game. In the NHL, if a guy takes a run at one of your players, everyone pussies out and lets the guy go to the penalty box instead of kicking his ass. And then they chase him around when he gets out of the box and may fight him, but it's not a given.

The NHL and the minors are completely different games.

Anyone want to do a Devils game sometime?

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The Capitals aren't going anywhere with Neuvirth/Varlamov as their goaltenders. It doesn't matter how well their offense is...those two aren't playoff goaltenders.