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Originally posted by DJ RANN You're certainly not dumb, and I've got to give it to you, some of your contribution on TA have been nothing short of outstanding (90's Epic sets, the TA Classic Mixes Threads etc) so what with the need for this kind of bullshit thread?

Agreed. Not one of his finest moments, that's for sure.

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If you are making Trance it doesnt help listening to Hip Hop or Rock, if you`re making Dubstep listening to Progressive House aint gonna do no good either.
If i wanted to make a Pop record or similar, then i would be better off listening to a bunch of albums of that kind of music.

I work at a club/concert place, i get exposed to 15-20 hours of music i have not heard before every week.. it doesnt do anything for my music really.

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I listen to space rock, indie rock and jazz, tell me how that relates to my uplifting trance productions, haha

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Originally posted by DJ RANN so what with the need for this kind of bullshit thread?

This thread is thought provoking and a little uncomfortable - no one likes entertaining the notion they might be in some little naval gazing self congratulatory bubble.

It minds me of newspaper critics columns in the sense 'artistes' having vested thier energy into a body of work do not like a critic telling them they're on the wrong path all together.

I personaly have no issue with someone endeavouring to raise my consciousness - I'd hate to be like those women who found 80's big permed hairdo's to thier liking and so stuck with the style come what may, ha

THERE'S AN OLD SAYING IN BUSINESS 'YOUR HARSHEST CRITIC IS YOUR BEST CUSTOMER'. If for example restauranters bothered to check whether thier customers HONESTLY liked thier output, then we wouldn't have the majority going bust.

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Originally posted by Subtle If you are making Trance it doesnt help listening to Hip Hop or Rock, if you`re making Dubstep listening to Progressive House aint gonna do no good either. If i wanted to make a Pop record or similar, then i would be better off listening to a bunch of albums of that kind of music. I work at a club/concert place, i get exposed to 15-20 hours of music i have not heard before every week.. it doesnt do anything for my music really.

Just working in my own particular if not peculiar style, I tend to borrow a little from everywhere. I think if the only thing I surrounded myself with was music which sounded like my own, I'd be getting a certain amount of tunnel vision which would be restrictive to my style. I'm not saying that your practices have hampered you but I understand what SYSTEM-J is getting at, in this regard.

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my old stuff, not quite up to snuff - but I still dig it - UPDATED 9/23/2012

I really do think you can be musically original and innovative without directly taking from other musical influences and mixing them in with what you do currently. I'd rather push my own limits by doing stuff that's completely new to me instead of listening to, say, jazz and then incorportating an interesting chord progression or idea that I get from that. I'd rather come up with what are new ideas of my own accord instead of imitating and expanding what I can do with that.

That's me personally, and just the fact that I know I do it makes me think I'm not the only one. Sure as hell gives his claims less validity at the very least.

Every action you take is merely a complex output based on imprinted memories. In other words your personal artistic creativity wrests upon a bank of memories.

I realised I am merely the sum of my inputs from outside when my Mum in law got alzheimers - strip away the memories and nothing is left - we are just memories, period.

My own view is we all percieve ourselves as autonomous individuals but fail to spot our outputs, or the escence of 'me' in actual fact merely depends on the inputs recieved.

Thats why if you are born in Pakistan you are far more likely to be a Muslim than a Christian - you might think you made a conscious decsion but if that were true then muslims and christians would not coalese in certain geographic locations.

Similarly in Italy, folk are not exposed to curry in the way we are in the UK so Italians almost always think curry is vile - they just dont get it and they will be certain this is a conscious decision they made but if by pure chance they had been born in London it is more likely than not they will like curry - just inputs dictating outputs.

I might like to think some super natural force drives my music but honestly I feel it's just my memory towers inputs that decided the output - just chemical reactions in fact.

In other words outside influence has a vital role to play.

Sorry to go off topic.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Who the fuck died and made you you the musical oracle? I, along with probably ever other person reading this thread quite probably couldn't give less of a shit about your opinion relating to musical taste.

Isn't this a strange contradiction. On the one hand you apparently don't give a shit about this thread, but you'll still barrage me with hundreds of angry words proving just how little you care. On the other hand, I apparently must care for making about four posts a day in the same thread, some of them a single line in length.

Time for some consistency, methinks. If I have to care, you clearly do too. If you're allowed to not give a shit what I think, I'm allowed to make this thread idly.

And quite frankly, as a man who recently laid claim to a ridiculously elaborate trolling attempt in MD about Paul Oakenfold, you lose any right to question why I make destructive threads like these. Again, you can't have your cake and eat it.

And Diplo fucking sucks.

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> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I think the majority of you are out of touch with music.

You can't make that assumption about anyone on here, regardless of their musical tastes (or even lack of it).

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You're here entirely to make yourself look bad by getting angry and over-defensive about a very simple question

We learnt from the best

wait a fucking second, ive actually both heard and bought a new album this year. the new iron maiden. it has two cool tracks, rest was garbage.

its not dubhop so your still out of touch with music

i thought i did good for once. wheres the razorblade?