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EddieZilker
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Registered: Jan 2009
Location: Marijuana Sex Camp

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
Actually a funny thing -

I know a girl who I went to high school with who came out as a very butch lesbian (boi) and recently friended me on FB. I've been fascinated, stalking her facebook. Actually she is a massive overshare, so at first it was involuntary, but then I became hooked. She lives in the midwest, in a very homogenous town, with no real LGBT community to speak of. So she hangs out with her lesbros a lot. At least once a week she will post stuff like "mixin' dub (code for brostep) and drinking PBR with ___, ___, &____". The rest of the week she will post about how much she drinks, where she is off skateboarding with her lesbros, or even more common - what celebrity femme she wants to bang at that moment, or how many women she is ogling at a strip club.

I can't help but feel all these stereotypically masculine activities are correlated with brostep.

I suspect that women liking brostep has something to do with the dance and energy aspect of it, but also something to do with a whole 'raunch culture' aspect. Similar to how some women may feel like to be considered 'hot' or 'cool' among their social group they have to do 'bro' things like go to a strip club, or that men will think they are hotter if they make out with their girlfriends, etc. It's a weird kind of 'if you cant beat them join them', post-feminist, reverse-chauvinist kind of mentality. I love a good gender stereotype challenge, but to me this seems less of a challenge and more of a surrender.

Now I don't know how much all this I described is actually a factor - like I said I think it could be somewhat a factor, but even if it is, it's definitely not all of the factor. Every teenager loves loud noisy music.

That said, it's rare you see girls with grotesquely huge sound systems in their own cars, with all the doors open in the parking lot of their local applebee's, and a blue glow emanating from the bottom of their car. And there is a reason we call it 'Brostep'


I suppose if I were asked to come up with a one word description of it, that word would be homeovestic.

In a lot of ways, brostep seems to be centered around its brash, raw sound. I remember a lot of AK1200 style DnB (which I honestly can't really stand, either) seemed to attract a lot of people wearing Metalica t-shirts. Musical tastes are reflections of self (hence, arguments tend to become tortured and convoluted where music is concerned, with a lot of perceived attacks where none were meant).

Whatever could be said for its musical simplicity, brostep is almost anarchic, pushing out past constraints formerly levied by the strict quantization of its predecessors (Acid, Hard House, Jungle (AK1200 DnB), et al, and putting forward even more chaos, just as insistently but still way outside the box while still maintaining a driving, rhythmic structure impelling dance. The question then is, what do these characteristics satisfy? I suspect the answer to that is revealed in the nature of your impromptu case study.

A young lesbian, rebelling against her own femininity and a local society that does not support either her inclinations nor aspirations, finds a reprieve from oppressive societal constraints in music which is masculine and chaotic and capable of erasing both the tension seething in a boring milieu and that milieu's effigy.


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nefardec
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quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
Whatever could be said for its musical simplicity, brostep is almost anarchic, pushing out past constraints formerly levied by the strict quantization of its predecessors (Acid, Hard House, Jungle (AK1200 DnB), et al, and putting forward even more chaos, just as insistently but still way outside the box while still maintaining a driving, rhythmic structure impelling dance.


very good observation.

it's the musical equivalent of running away from home.


with the neurofunk and hard drum and bass stuff i always got the impression it was more of a nerdy, dick-swinging, guns and ammo thing - it had a lot to do with certain movements in graphic design too, lots of futurist, para-military, technosexual wet dreaming, with high levels of overarticulation. These people had whole mythologies like "Planet of the Drums". It was like the official music of Duke Nukem

brostep is just noisy for the sake of being noisy. there's no mythology. It's stupid, uninventive music for getting stupid to.

The hyperarticulation of the wobbles and efx and all is like the equivalent of an overarticulated tribal tramp stamp or a fox news breaking news video effects introduction.

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Aaron C.
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quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
brostep is just noisy for the sake of being noisy. there's no mythology. It's stupid, uninventive music for getting stupid to.

The hyperarticulation of the wobbles and efx and all is like the equivalent of an overarticulated tribal tramp stamp or a fox news breaking news video effects introduction.


Sig worthy.


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echoshade555
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam420
Dude I posted like 6 videos in this thread already of what real actual good dubstep is. And so have others.


I'm aware of that. Maybe you didn't read my question properly? I was just askibg what the difference between Dubstep and Brostep is. So that being said, your reply makes no sense. lol


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If Optimus Prime ever had some type of health problem which caused him to constantly pass gass, the sound out of him would be what I consider Dubstep to be.


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Lews
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quote:
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I'm aware of that. Maybe you didn't read my question properly? I was just askibg what the difference between Dubstep and Brostep is. So that being said, your reply makes no sense. lol


Have you read the thread properly? The answer has been posted, quoted,discussed, and replied to several times.


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echoshade555
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quote:
Originally posted by Lews
Have you read the thread properly? The answer has been posted, quoted,discussed, and replied to several times.


Yes, I've read it. All I see are people discussing it - but already know the difference between the two. Maybe I missed a reply or something. I'll re look.


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SYSTEM-J
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Location: Manchester

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Whatever, it's not like this will get anywhere, but hopefully you'll understand my point about the tracks you posted vs. the ones I did. I'm not saying they're not good in any way, I'm just saying that they lack the production quality that I've come to look for.


No, I don't really understand at all. I don't think the tracks you posted sound very analogue, I don't think they sound warm and I don't think they sound well produced.

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quote:
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To you it's candy. To me it's like somebody inserting a running electric screw driver into my ears.


And it's probably for the very same reason I hate coffee. Seriously, it's just bitter water, doesn't taste good at all.


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