Hey, you started this dog and pony show!

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ok, let me explain;

the fish cannot see out of the aquarium yet they try to theorize, speculate and debate as to what is outside the aquarium and who/what created the aquarium (another fish perhaps? must be a big and powerful fish)and what influence the creator of the aquarium has on their lives.

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Originally posted by Desiderata Ummm, I CLEARLY stated that I was an Atheist!

you see, the bible had absolutely nothing to do with christians becoming atheists. other christians are the reason. if all the ex-christians had loving and compassionate parents who weren't forceful about believing in God, they would still be christians. can't forget the gullible sunday school teacher who doesn't truly teach the essence of Jesus. The bible is impeccable in my opinion, so it had nothing to do with ex-christians who are now atheists.

^ah my assessment on atheists might be wrong. here's a clip of one of the greatest ministers today:

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Originally posted by Mattinsanity you see, the bible had absolutely nothing to do with christians becoming atheists. other christians are the reason. if all the ex-christians had loving and compassionate parents who weren't forceful about believing in God, they would still be christians. can't forget the gullible sunday school teacher who doesn't truly teach the essence of Jesus. The bible is impeccable in my opinion, so it had nothing to do with ex-christians who are now atheists.

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Originally posted by Mattinsanity ^ah my assessment on atheists might be wrong. here's a clip of one of the greatest ministers today:

If thats a great minister, i woudnt want to meet a terrible one...what am i saying, i have met terrible ones. Doesnt change the fact though, that that guy is still a self satisfying smug douche that should get punched in the face.

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Originally posted by Moongoose If thats a great minister, i woudnt want to meet a terrible one...what am i saying, i have met terrible ones. Doesnt change the fact though, that that guy is still a self satisfying smug douche that should get punched in the face.

the man in the clip drives a beat up car whose tires literally fall off. he also said he doesn't care about clothes - he would pick it out of a bin. yes there are terrible ministers. they drive rolls royces and lives a lavish lifestyle, and paul washer scorches them in his sermons - absolutely verbally tears them to shreds - in a legitimate manner. paul washer is the type of minister who ex-christians never had a chance to listen to, real talk.

What gets me frustrated about Religion and God is this protective shield we have given them. We are expected to respect people on their belief/faith which means science and facts can not apply. It’s funny that when it suits their purpose they attempt to use science as proof of Religion. It always ends up backfiring in their faces though, just like when they tried to push intelligent design in schools.

Yes, it is in your bible.

^that verse does seem ludicrous. I'll have to talk to theologians about that.

but if nick vujicic believes in Jesus, then he has to be real:

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Originally posted by Moongoose They deserve less respect if anything. At last the crazy people that actually believe and follow everything in there are properly commited to what they believe is gods word. In a way that sort of a detachment from reality deserves a certain kind of respect...then death by fire. People who pick and choose though...no respect. No commitment. THey take a supposed word of god, rip out what they think the omnipotent omniscient higher being got WRONG, and say, now this make sense, that other shit was clearly crazy but this makes sense, ill blindly believe in this. Yeah, not worthy of respect.

They deserve less respect because they don't take a book 100% down to each and every word written?

I actually think that what they are doing is very respectful, for one, they are more tolerant of other peoples beliefs. THAT right there shows they,have respect and thus should receive respect.

Most of these people I am speaking of believe in God but just not the way the sect says so 100%. They do have commitment to their own beliefs. The bottom line is you are on this side or that side.

What's wrong with them creating a reality that is not on either side?

I know as an Atheist I am right.
But, what these people are doing is stopping
Or atleast trying to stop this arguing over Religion that people just love to fight, instead they are like shoplifters borrowing bits and pieces of a said Religion to create thier own reality. I rather coexistence than fight or discuss the same old war.

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But the subsequent collision of fools...
Well versed in the subtle art of slavery.

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Originally posted by Mattinsanity the man in the clip drives a beat up car whose tires literally fall off. he also said he doesn't care about clothes - he would pick it out of a bin. yes there are terrible ministers. they drive rolls royces and lives a lavish lifestyle, and paul washer scorches them in his sermons - absolutely verbally tears them to shreds - in a legitimate manner. paul washer is the type of minister who ex-christians never had a chance to listen to, real talk.

I couldnt care less about the car he drives or the clothes he wears, thats not how i measure him, i only care about what he says. And what he says is incredibly condescending and his argument is migraine inducingly stupid and ignorant. Therefore, a self satisfied smug douche that should get punched in the face.

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I guess they have Empathy for the Devil but this also means they do believe there is a so called God.

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But the subsequent collision of fools...
Well versed in the subtle art of slavery.