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Originally posted by tathi Hitler didn't have blonde hair and blue eyes

Are you this ignorant not to know that Hitler thought that blonde hair and blue eyes were ideal? Even the liberals will teach you that in school.

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And what of Israels illegal occupation of Palestine? ------------------------------------------------- I drew the comparison between Sharon and Hitler not because of genocide but the systematic violence towards a racially distinct group. Hitler not only symbolises tired dualistic concepts like "evil" but also arrogant hegemonic and ethnocentric ideals, this is why he appeals to all those idiot dissilusioned neo-nazis, the same reason why Sharon has become another figurehead to all the chauvinist racists out there. Stick to the politics between dwarves, elves and orcs Toscher Sedai. You're an ignorant redneck, and your pathetic retort "you don't have a clue." and "Sorry, "genius child," it's no argument." Is nothing short of an infantile caricature, or any riposte similar too "i know you are i know you are but what am i?"

And what of suicide bombing? Another compassionate defender of Palestine and their "poor, innocent" people being il-treated by Israel ...Well how bout Israel? Their country is so small, you can drive through it like 2wice in a day. Muslims want to drive out the Jews, and rid the mid-east of any "modernism," and western influence. And you call Sharon, ethnocentric?? Why don't these Muslims just relocate to one of their brother Muslim nations that surround them? Why? Because those imbicilic Arab nations want an excuse to war with the Jews. Israel has one of the best trained militaries in the world because everyday life is threatened by Muslims. Do you see Israel going in and detonating public buses full of children, strapping on bombs consisting of nails, tacs, and anything to tear one's flesh with, and unloading in public areas???? What sort of morals are they taught? They think it's an honor to God what they're doing. That's some crazy BS!

Arafat is a terrorist and Israel should stop being harassad by Palestine and their pathetic ideologies and just bombard them to hell where they belong. Why don't you draw a comparison between Hitler and Saddam, or Hitler and Arafat? It's always either between Sharon or Bush. Bush and Sharon are military operatives. Without strong military, is like putting your arms down in a boxing match.

Ethnocentric? Bush? Sharon? It's not about racism...it's about taking a stance against moronic and uncivilized groups of people out to terrorize the world.

Nothing here is going to change minds, Tathi. It's either one agrees, if my position is shared, or doesn't agree. I have no doubt my views are minority here on this forum.

And oohh, congradulations tathi, you can make fun of my name and sig....wow That's a great sign of maturity. And "ignorant redneck?" You don't even know my ethnicity, so don't try and pretend you know me. Grow up!

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well said

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Originally posted by Toscher Sedai Are you this ignorant not to know that Hitler thought that blonde hair and blue eyes were ideal? Even the liberals will teach you that in school. And what of suicide bombing? Another compassionate defender of Palestine and their "poor, innocent" people being il-treated by Israel ...Well how bout Israel? Their country is so small, you can drive through it like 2wice in a day. Muslims want to drive out the Jews, and rid the mid-east of any "modernism," and western influence. And you call Sharon, ethnocentric?? Why don't these Muslims just relocate to one of their brother Muslim nations that surround them? Why? Because those imbicilic Arab nations want an excuse to war with the Jews. Israel has one of the best trained militaries in the world because everyday life is threatened by Muslims. Do you see Israel going in and detonating public buses full of children, strapping on bombs consisting of nails, tacs, and anything to tear one's flesh with, and unloading in public areas???? What sort of morals are they taught? They think it's an honor to God what they're doing. That's some crazy BS! Arafat is a terrorist and Israel should stop being harassad by Palestine and their pathetic ideologies and just bombard them to hell where they belong. Why don't you draw a comparison between Hitler and Saddam, or Hitler and Arafat? It's always either between Sharon or Bush. Bush and Sharon are military operatives. Without strong military, is like putting your arms down in a boxing match. Ethnocentric? Bush? Sharon? It's not about racism...it's about taking a stance against moronic and uncivilized groups of people out to terrorize the world. Nothing here is going to change minds, Tathi. It's either one agrees, if my position is shared, or doesn't agree. I have no doubt my views are minority here on this forum. And oohh, congradulations tathi, you can make fun of my name and sig....wow That's a great sign of maturity. And "ignorant redneck?" You don't even know my ethnicity, so don't try and pretend you know me. Grow up!

You are a waste of semen.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King You are a waste of semen.

I'm just so hurt...considering this remark comes from a user with Che q Vara's pic in place for his own.

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Originally posted by Toscher Sedai Are you this ignorant not to know that Hitler thought that blonde hair and blue eyes were ideal? Even the liberals will teach you that in school. And what of suicide bombing? Another compassionate defender of Palestine and their "poor, innocent" people being il-treated by Israel ...Well how bout Israel? Their country is so small, you can drive through it like 2wice in a day. Muslims want to drive out the Jews, and rid the mid-east of any "modernism," and western influence. And you call Sharon, ethnocentric?? Why don't these Muslims just relocate to one of their brother Muslim nations that surround them? Why? Because those imbicilic Arab nations want an excuse to war with the Jews. Israel has one of the best trained militaries in the world because everyday life is threatened by Muslims. Do you see Israel going in and detonating public buses full of children, strapping on bombs consisting of nails, tacs, and anything to tear one's flesh with, and unloading in public areas???? What sort of morals are they taught? They think it's an honor to God what they're doing. That's some crazy BS! Arafat is a terrorist and Israel should stop being harassad by Palestine and their pathetic ideologies and just bombard them to hell where they belong. Why don't you draw a comparison between Hitler and Saddam, or Hitler and Arafat? It's always either between Sharon or Bush. Bush and Sharon are military operatives. Without strong military, is like putting your arms down in a boxing match. Ethnocentric? Bush? Sharon? It's not about racism...it's about taking a stance against moronic and uncivilized groups of people out to terrorize the world. Nothing here is going to change minds, Tathi. It's either one agrees, if my position is shared, or doesn't agree. I have no doubt my views are minority here on this forum. And oohh, congradulations tathi, you can make fun of my name and sig....wow That's a great sign of maturity. And "ignorant redneck?" You don't even know my ethnicity, so don't try and pretend you know me. Grow up!

wtf, so let me get this straight... youre calling all of palestines people terrorist? come on, i dont take either side on this subject, but thats just plain idiotic and rubbish. muslims don't want to drive israel into the sea, only radicals do. you do know what radicals are right? as for the modernism and western influence part, some muslims do like trance, heck some are even into britney and nsync. why should the muslims relocate, thats like saying the hispanics and mexicans should get out of california, even though california was once mexico. Oh and which arab nations are at war with israel? Iran is most likely the only one. Israel sure is innocent, they are not terrorizing people, with their bulldozing and storming of innocent peoples homes ... very innocent Like i said those who do it in honor of god are radicals, kinda like the christian radicals in this country kill doctors and blow up abortion clinics. While others do it to gain their freedom from israel. yeah its some bs alright, but from both sides

yeah we need more bombing of the palestinian ghettos, they are not bad enough Hitler and saddam comprison? only in the media control sense, he hasnt done shit after the first gulf war. and i hope you mean bush is doing terroristic military operatives, since iraq never did nothing to us at all.

um moronic, uncivilized groups? heh sounds alot like the american people, who a majority believe it was iraqis who did 911, and that saddam had, as well as, used wmds. should we go after them too? oh wait asscroft is working on that

btw you always bring up liberals, could you please define what a liberal is in your own words

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Originally posted by rizen wtf, so let me get this straight... youre calling ALL of palestines people terrorist? come on, i dont take either side on this subject, but thats just plain idiotic and rubbish. muslims don't want to drive israel into the sea, only radicals do. you do know what radicals are right? as for the modernism and western influence part, some muslims do like trance, heck some are even into britney and nsync. why should the muslims relocate, thats like saying the hispanics and mexicans should get out of california, even though california was once mexico. Oh and which arab nations are at war with israel? Iran is most likely the only one. Israel sure is innocent, they are not terrorizing people, with their bulldozing and storming of innocent peoples homes ... very innocent Like i said those who do it in honor of god are radicals, kinda like the christian radicals in this country kill doctors and blow up abortion clinics. While others do it to gain their freedom from israel. yeah its some bs alright, but from both sides yeah we need more bombing of the palestinian ghettos, they are not bad enough Hitler and saddam comprison? only in the media control sense, he hasnt done shit after the first gulf war. and i hope you mean bush is doing terroristic military operatives, since iraq never did nothing to us at all. um moronic, uncivilized groups? heh sounds alot like the american people, who a majority believe it was iraqis who did 911, and that saddam had, as well as, used wmds. should we go after them too? oh wait asscroft is working on that btw you always bring up liberals, could you please define what a liberal is in your own words

Not that you're a liberal, but you're answer sounds like a liberal one. Where did I say "all?" please quote me on that. Mexicans aren't self-inflicting themselves with dynamite and terrorizing Americans, are they??? You don't seem to undersatnd principle. Iran the only nation...if all of Mid-East could destroy Israel...it would. Saddam, yes, he killed his own people like Hitler did, and what do you know of his intentions? How would you know he wouldn't plan anyhting against another country such as US? He didn't have the power to carry it out if he was.
Umm, those cowards that kill US doctors are extremists from or near the Canadian border...Canada is a liberal country. Israel is trying to live a life, while Arafat attempts to terrorize it. And those people that do the suicide bombings aren't all radicals...they're people who are fed with illegitimate morals and values by leaders that have corrupted society with their own agendas.
911...nice to see how much respect you have for a country you live in and reap thousands more benefits than those people who die trying to get in. Saddam needed to be toppled regardless...look at the iraqi woman for instance...the barrier between genders has finally been toppled. US attacked a point on the Muslim world, to send a message that it will fight, as cowardly Clinton wouldn't.

Ariana Huffington for governor???

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Originally posted by Toscher Sedai Not that you're a liberal, but you're answer sounds like a liberal one. Where did I say "all?" please quote me on that. Mexicans aren't self-inflicting themselves with dynamite and terrorizing Americans, are they??? You don't seem to undersatnd principle. Iran the only nation...if all of Mid-East could destroy Israel...it would. Saddam, yes, he killed his own people like Hitler did, and what do you know of his intentions? How would you know he wouldn't plan anyhting against another country such as US? He didn't have the power to carry it out if he was. Umm, those cowards that kill US doctors are extremists from or near the Canadian border...Canada is a liberal country. Israel is trying to live a life, while Arafat attempts to terrorize it. And those people that do the suicide bombings aren't all radicals...they're people who are fed with illegitimate morals and values by leaders that have corrupted society with their own agendas. 911...nice to see how much respect you have for a country you live in and reap thousands more benefits than those people who die trying to get in. Saddam needed to be toppled regardless...look at the iraqi woman for instance...the barrier between genders has finally been toppled. US attacked a point on the Muslim world, to send a message that it will fight, as cowardly Clinton wouldn't. Ariana Huffington for governor???

What is a liberal! anyway you didnt say all but i got the impression of it by this line of yours "Another compassionate defender of Palestine and their "poor, innocent" people". yeah mexicans are not doing terrorist acts, and neither are those innocent palestineans who get terrorized by israel. Iran destroy Israel? how? LOL. Yeah saddam did kill his own people, but you know what we turned a blind eye and let him do it, even gave him most of the weapons to do so. I hope you do know why we did this too. I probaly don't know if he would of planned to attack another country such as the US, but the CIA sure does. The CIA said he had no WMDs nor was saddam a threat to the US or any of its neighbors, especially Israel, remember when israel took out iraq's nucluar power reactor.

Oh yeah that Paul Hill and his reverend donald Spitz are liberal canucks dont you think palestineans want to live their life as well? i agree with you on arafat, like i said i dont take either side, they are both as bad. I know that not all the sucide bombers are radicals, i guess you messed "While others do it to gain their freedom from israel".

LOL WHAT. when did i disrespect 911 or the thousands who died. are you trying to say the iraqis did do 911?!??! haha jesus, you have no clue do you, woman under saddam actually had more freedom, there was also more religous freedom under him too. question, do you know how the women are in afghanistan, or have you forgetten? although i do agree that saddam should of been toppled, but not in this way. Muslim world? Iraq has a large population of christians, i believe around 1 million. as for the fight? what fight LOL I do agree with you on clinton though, we should of gone after al queda alot sooner

you have a better choice than arianna, besides peter camejo? if so start a new thread

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Originally posted by Cyrus King I beleive part of the reason why these suicide bombers exist is because they are driven to insanity in part after seeing Israeli tanks and guns blow up their families and friends...And to those who agree that its worth killing Palestinians to "weed out terrorists".... you are no worse than a terrorist yourself... a life is a life....as said before... we all bleed the same colour.

In a way I think you might be right Cyris. Either way, I hope peace for both countries but neither will achieve it if they continue to bombard each other with violent acts. As for Paleastanians defending themselves with only rocks, thats very true. I seen lots of photos and it goes to show that these people will do anything to stand up for themselves.

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Originally posted by Toscher Sedai Are you this ignorant not to know that Hitler thought that blonde hair and blue eyes were ideal? Even the liberals will teach you that in school. And what of suicide bombing? Another compassionate defender of Palestine and their "poor, innocent" people being il-treated by Israel ...Well how bout Israel? Their country is so small, you can drive through it like 2wice in a day. Muslims want to drive out the Jews, and rid the mid-east of any "modernism," and western influence. And you call Sharon, ethnocentric?? Why don't these Muslims just relocate to one of their brother Muslim nations that surround them? Why? Because those imbicilic Arab nations want an excuse to war with the Jews. Israel has one of the best trained militaries in the world because everyday life is threatened by Muslims. Do you see Israel going in and detonating public buses full of children, strapping on bombs consisting of nails, tacs, and anything to tear one's flesh with, and unloading in public areas???? What sort of morals are they taught? They think it's an honor to God what they're doing. That's some crazy BS! Arafat is a terrorist and Israel should stop being harassad by Palestine and their pathetic ideologies and just bombard them to hell where they belong. Why don't you draw a comparison between Hitler and Saddam, or Hitler and Arafat? It's always either between Sharon or Bush. Bush and Sharon are military operatives. Without strong military, is like putting your arms down in a boxing match. Ethnocentric? Bush? Sharon? It's not about racism...it's about taking a stance against moronic and uncivilized groups of people out to terrorize the world. Nothing here is going to change minds, Tathi. It's either one agrees, if my position is shared, or doesn't agree. I have no doubt my views are minority here on this forum. And oohh, congradulations tathi, you can make fun of my name and sig....wow That's a great sign of maturity. And "ignorant redneck?" You don't even know my ethnicity, so don't try and pretend you know me. Grow up!

This guys great! A fresh voice that tells it like it is. Nice!

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Originally posted by Cyrus King You are a waste of semen.

...this post has proven that you're less deserving of that semen by FAR!

You have nothing to say so you spew shit yet again.
If we wanted shit outta you we'd squeeze your head.
You need to grow up and realize reality. Terrorism is NOT okay!
You could now return to the lamentableness you call life.

Yea, thats right, I said lamentableness!
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I dont want to sound critical, but honestly, a thread like this should not be answered by either sides (meaning jew/arab etc.) ...why you might ask? because your opinions are intrinsically biased. Dont argue, or bash me for saying that, it is the beautiful and simple truth. Everybody has brought up some interesting points, but alot of the crap i just read was exactly that, crap. I see it all the time on CNN and BBC and all these huge mass-media lies. The sad but simple truth is nobody on this godamn site can pretend to know what the hell is going on, because you would be lying to yourself and everyone else if you did. As vonnegute would say "so it goes". think about it. and stop the hate for christs sake, its weak.

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Originally posted by ftnb I dont want to sound critical, but honestly, a thread like this should not be answered by either sides (meaning jew/arab etc.) ...why you might ask? because your opinions are intrinsically biased. Dont argue, or bash me for saying that, it is the beautiful and simple truth. Everybody has brought up some interesting points, but alot of the crap i just read was exactly that, crap. I see it all the time on CNN and BBC and all these huge mass-media lies. The sad but simple truth is nobody on this godamn site can pretend to know what the hell is going on, because you would be lying to yourself and everyone else if you did. As vonnegute would say "so it goes". think about it. and stop the hate for christs sake, its weak.

I am Israelie Jew . I was always for Peace more than anything else. I do agree each sides has its difficulties to see the who;e situation as it is. However, I dont think any of you can understand it better, I wish you or I could understand it. I keep telling myslef these is hope , but sometimes ... I just don't know if there is a solution to this. I don't want to hurt , but I am hurt. My biggest wish for the moment is to fine ONE guy at my age (31) , a Palestinien who will reach up for me and tell me "we share them same thoughts, I want peace as much as you do, I will do my best over my side and you on your side." BUT the problem is I never EVER met anytone from the other side, nor in the net that can tell me such a thing.
I think both side should talk here and everywhere, just for the slight chance both sides will meet, based on music forum or anything else.

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