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Maxim303
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Registered: Oct 2001
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ligaya was total shit, as was the G+D stuff...


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mentalbarter
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Registered: May 2002
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ligaya is good, punk is awesome, and most G&D stuff owns


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mentalbarter
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u ******s just dont like it when producers experiment, push the boundaries, etc.


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Maxim303
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quote:
Originally posted by mentalbarter
u ******s just dont like it when producers experiment, push the boundaries, etc.

hahahaha...umm... NO!
i'm fine and like experimentation (i love IDM, if that's not experimentation, i dunno what is..) but the G+D crap is soooo boring and dry, i'd rather jerk off with sandpaper!

and exactly how much experimentation went into ligaya? same derivative bullshit we've been hearing for years, def. did not live up to the hype.


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Vanilla
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Registered: Apr 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by Maxim303
but the G+D crap is soooo boring and dry, i'd rather jerk off with sandpaper!


Ouch, Im sure there's better hobbies out there lol


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Kurve
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Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Las Vegas but from Germany

quote:
Originally posted by mizzuno
Ok i have been on this board just as long as you if not longer and I'm not "just" a 15 year old. I disagree, in fact i believe that you may be in another dimension. 2001 was the year of progressive, I think we can all agree, no vocals, no or very little builds, basically boring shit, 2002 vocals and uplifting came back, and progressive became more melodic...thankfully. So lets start talking facts instead of opinions.

I heard enough of the fools say at the end of 2000 that epic was dead blah blah...then 2002 came around and all thoses dumbasses seem to be wrong.

Facts not opinions....opinions are like assholes everyone has one.


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well the thing why i brought the lenght of participation on this board ..its because someone stated if you dont like epic then why be on this board...i said well i been coming to this board when it was still the old board back in 2000...before it got changed in august.... i mean just because i find epic to be bland and unoriginal doesnt mean i should stop going to this board there are ton of prog fans up in here that have the same views i do about certain aspects..... the stated of me being on here longer then most wasnt directed to 15 year olds or whatever ..its was souly to show why i come to this board.. thats all

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LiquidX
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Registered: Mar 2001
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I will say Gouryella - Ligaya . After all the talking about this track that I heard before I had listened, I came to a huge disappointment, in my opinion, a plain melodic track, but no a WOW track. I expected way toooo much for this track, as is some of Svenson and Gielen latest tracks, besides the answer which is good, but the rest like you know what you did, it just plain disappointment, expected better as well. Dumonde has let me down as well.


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Ligaya ... biggest disap. in the history of trance to me


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rock_roll18
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Chicago
Re: Dutch trance 2002

just curious but how is yet another day junk?or even ordinary by any one's standards.
Just curious
quote:
Originally posted by Vesa
Epic trance isn't dead. Many producers were only starting to get good at it back in 2000. If they had continued their development, there would have been lots of innovative melodic tracks with new soundscapes this year, but instead, the producers lost it completely for some reason. Too much money? Too much drugs? Too old? Dunno, but many people made better tracks a couple years ago. Not all, of course, but those producers that I've been following most closely.

Here are my biggest disappointments of 2002. Note that I'm not saying that these tunes suck. Actually, many of them are quite OK. But I had extremely high expectations for them because the producers seemed godlike in their earlier career.

Kid Vicious - Proceed
(not as good as his earlier melodic tracks)
Mesh - Purple Haze
(very simple track structure even for a B-side, and his new sounds do not convince)
everything by Geert Huinink
(too proggy, why wasn't there even one old-fashioned Dawnseekers track with strings?)
everything by Armin
(his previous years were master's work, but now it's only ordinary stuff)
Rank 1 album
(not bad, but I had hoped they could recreate their 1999 sound)
Sunstar - Sea Of Desire (Sunstar club mix) and a few other their tracks
(the vocals suit the track quite well, but otherwise the tune lacks energy)

For me, Ligaya was what I expected. Not a super-innovative tune, but it was still at least normal Ferry quality. Signum and Katana also kept their own.

The only guy to improve was Ralph Barendse, who's already starting to compete for number one position in Dutch trance.

I think the other Dutch guys should now stay in the studio to regroup, instead of putting out lame tracks just for the sake of releasing.

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Verona^My
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Rochester, NY

quote:
Originally posted by DarkLordz
maybe its tune, cuz the original song is good, all pvd did was add his gay bassline, original 0wnz it. On the note of pvd is there anything he did in 2002 that isnt repetative crap?


The PVD bassline = teh leet.


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Verona^My
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Registered: Apr 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by E65OwnsJ00
I think that Ian Van Dyke - FOr an Angel is pretty lame.


I think that Eiffel65 - Blue is pretty lame..


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Maxim303
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Location: Atlanta, GA, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Verona^My
I think that Eiffel65 - Blue is pretty lame..

wow... someone finally developed enough cognitive ability to grasp the obvious..
"NO SHIT SHERLOCK!"


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