no idiot, i'm insulting idiots, not americans. why did you associate them both? I never did.

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my americanization was in quotes too... so we're even. this is such a waste of time arguing with kids, i'm going to bed gettin in shape for tonight

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Originally posted by Maxim303 yes, look at Israel's status.. it has one of the most technologically advanced societies in the region and one of the best armed forces in the world. it WORKED to be where it is. what did "palestinians" have before Israel was established? the land was barren desert before Jews did something about it. i know plenty more about the region than you might think.. and why do you assume i'm american? cos that's what my location is? wow.. assuming like that makes an ASS out of you! as as far as the "palestinians" go, they live inside Israel, so it can do what it likes with them. too bad they do have a total idiot for a leader.. as far as my news sources, i have primary sources that LIVE there, so again, stop assuming crap like this.

I know Israel has one of the best militaries in the world..... my point is they use that military in a horrendous way. And about Palestinians having a desert before "Jews did something about it" is not sufficient in justifying the illegal occupation of that land. Just becuase a land is industrially developed doesnt mean its good. You are as American as you stated on your own website.. and dont give me that bullshit about "quotations" around that word.. you wrote that sentence becuase it was the truth .. otherwise if you didnt feel American you wouldnt right that. Obviously... you do not acknowledge the existence of a palestinian struggle becuase you say that "they live inside Israel" and they can do what they like with them. To that i say you are right.... on one account. Israel seems to be doing what they want..by creating curfews..demands..apache helicopter strikes..."accidental misfirings"...tank demolishes.. and other senseless brutality.

Your "news" sources are not from an acredited agency.. they are people who live there.. and therefore have a biased opinion. I wouldnt get any news from either the palestinian side or the Israeli side.
My sources have come from individuals who i know work at the CBC... Rueters and unfunded agencies that dont run of the power of politically winged advertisers.

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maxim303, your views are fuckin really closed minded. you say you arent american, well i think the US should opress you and make you live in a shit hole, just like how they do to the palestinians in isreal. just because they developed the land, it gives them a right to do with the inhabitants as they please?

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Originally posted by liquidxxd maxim303, your views are fuckin really closed minded. you say you arent american, well i think the US should opress you and make you live in a shit hole, just like how they do to the palestinians in isreal. just because they developed the land, it gives them a right to do with the inhabitants as they please?

do you know the difference between me and the palestinians? i contribute to the society around me and do not blow up clubs and buses. israel does not "opress" the palestinians just for fun, they do it to prevent attacks on innocent israeli civilains (and before you give me that innocent palestinain bullshit, random palestinians were interviewd and they praised the suicide murderers and said they would do the same).

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Originally posted by Maxim303 do you know the difference between me and the palestinians? i contribute to the society around me and do not blow up clubs and buses. israel does not "opress" the palestinians just for fun, they do it to prevent attacks on innocent israeli civilains (and before you give me that innocent palestinain bullshit, random palestinians were interviewd and they praised the suicide murderers and said they would do the same).

First off.. we know that Israel isnt opressing the palestinians for fun.. thats not what i and others think...however.. there is an oppression,... and thats the point. The government uses opprsession thinking it will end the cycle of terrorism, but it wont.. more people will die and as a result vengence and hatred is created. Do you think these palestinians are born as terrrorists? Do you beleive that all palestinians are inherently full of madness? They are driven into it after they see their freinds being shot,, kids killed and families bulldozed by tanks. I wouldnt think you would sit there and say... let Arafat take care of this. You would want to do something about it... and unfortunately.. many have considered suicide bombing because of this. Their feelings of anger and vengence are coupled with religious fanaticism which leads to horrible consequences. And remember.. these are young teenagers/college students too...who are very vulnerable. As much as i hate to see terrorism happen to anyone on earth.. it will continue until those who are in power take a less hateful and violent approach to solve things.

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(and before you give me that innocent palestinain bullshit, random palestinians were interviewd and they praised the suicide murderers and said they would do the same).

I wont even dignify that with a response. I am sorry to say this.......but you are stupid. And i dont mean that in any derrogatory form.

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Originally posted by Maxim303 do you know the difference between me and the palestinians? i contribute to the society around me and do not blow up clubs and buses. israel does not "opress" the palestinians just for fun, they do it to prevent attacks on innocent israeli civilains (and before you give me that innocent palestinain bullshit, random palestinians were interviewd and they praised the suicide murderers and said they would do the same).

so you are labelling all palestinians as terrorist is that it? and hwo do you contribute to society, im curious? i know they dont opress for fun, but opression of everyone seems to be what is prevoking these attacks. you think if isreal wasnt trying to take over and just stayed in isreal, palestinians would come and blow up stuff in isreal, i find that hard to believe. i dont agree with the suicide bombing, but they dont just do it for no reason, did you ever think of that.
and note, i didnt say all palestinains were innocent. i agree taking innocnet lives is not right, but it makes it right for israel to do it and not palestine? not that i am saying two wrongs make a right, but your point of view is hippocritical. the israelis kill supposedly innocent people to protect other innocent people?

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Originally posted by liquidxxd shut up with that garbage, you are saying it like the whole country of the present did that. most of the people in the usa dont agree with what is going on. i think it is retarted. all that stuff about the indians and the blacks was int eh past, it cant be fixed, so just shut up with that.

it's not garbage it's the truth , this is how America built itself , and i'm not blaming it on the present persons.

I was just reminding you that the country that calls itself the most democratic and liberal and police of the world and all the useless bla bla bla is after all just as worse as a dictatorship anywhere else in the world.

and don't tell me to shut up , you shut up if you're not able to be polite in this conversation.

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Originally posted by fastmp3 it's not garbage it's the truth , this is how America built itself , and i'm not blaming it on the present persons. I was just reminding you that the country that calls itself the most democratic and liberal and police of the world and all the useless bla bla bla is after all just as worse as a dictatorship anywhere else in the world. and don't tell me to shut up , you shut up if you're not able to be polite in this conversation.

ah ic, my bad. yea i took it in the wrong way, but it gets somewaht annoying when some people (im not saying you did this) but some people blame their problems on what happened in this country 200-250 years ago. yea sorry about being rude though

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Originally posted by liquidxxd ah ic, my bad. yea i took it in the wrong way, but it gets somewaht annoying when some people (im not saying you did this) but some people blame their problems on what happened in this country 200-250 years ago. yea sorry about being rude though

nevermind man it's all good

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