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Originally posted by gaz@influential Can I just challenge the assertion a lot of people are making that record labels rely on vinyl sales? For a lot of labels royalties from compilation licensing can actually make more than vinyl sales, which are obviously on CD, therefore mp3s do affect them.

i don't know any figures, but i hardly think trance labels earn more money from compilations than from vinyls. they target clubs, not the masses..

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Originally posted by tor8024 i don't know any figures, but i hardly think trance labels earn more money from compilations than from vinyls.

But they do! Putting tracks on vinly is pretty expensive, if someone puts ur track on a compilation u don't have to pay for the pressing. So since u don't have any expensives u make more money.

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Originally posted by robstar But they do! Putting tracks on vinly is pretty expensive, if someone puts ur track on a compilation u don't have to pay for the pressing. So since u don't have any expensives u make more money.

I think so 2.
Lightning Records and its sublabels released a lot of compilations here in Belgium and the last 2 or 3 years, I've seen like 10 copied or downloaded compilations for every original (bought) compilation.

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Originally posted by gaz@influential Can I just challenge the assertion a lot of people are making that record labels rely on vinyl sales? For a lot of labels royalties from compilation licensing can actually make more than vinyl sales, which are obviously on CD, therefore mp3s do affect them.

yeh but arnt all liscences purchased before the CD's are sold thus unaffected by the how many CD's are sold?

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Originally posted by Dumonde Trancer yeh but arnt all liscences purchased before the CD's are sold thus unaffected by the how many CD's are sold?

i think they also receieve royalties for every cd sold too.

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Originally posted by M.A.R.K i think they also receieve royalties for every cd sold too.

Yup!

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Originally posted by M.A.R.K i think they also receieve royalties for every cd sold too.

righteo

fair play

but lets face it most cd ompilations are shit, i dont even download them let alone buy them

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Originally posted by Dumonde Trancer righteo fair play but lets face it most cd ompilations are shit, i dont even download them let alone buy them

Yeah! Out of 20 compilations 19 are shite and 1 is good. ;/

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Originally posted by SuperFarStucker There simply isnt any data available that prove mp3s are killing the scene or helping it..

On the contrary.
There have been many studies, and they all prove that, if anything, MP3's actually help the industry.

I, for example, am not a big MP3 junkie; I have very few MP3's and am not so addicted to the whole WinMX/Napster/.. culture. As a DJ I have a big collection of vinyl, and I regularly buy vinyl, as well as Trance CD's and DJ mixes that are available in stores.

However, if I were to hear an MP3 that I liked, I would immediately search to see if it's available on vinyl, and if I really liked it, yes, I would buy the vinyl! Vinyl nowadays exists mostly for the DJ. And, as a DJ, I'd love to add that track to my collection. There's also the quality argument: What audiophile would listen to a lower-quality MP3? Most people who like music are audiophiles. Those who just grab the MP3's and spend their time leeching stuff are not true fans, they're amateurs. And trust me, there are enough audiophiles out there, as well as DJs.

So, DJMayTag, I disagree with your argument, and there have been studies that show MP3 in a much more favorable light than you think. I can find you some links if you want.

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Here's a few pro-MP3 links for you:

http://www.azoz.com/music/features/0008.html

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/26710.html

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/28588.html

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/28919.html

Don't know exactly where to find anti-MP3 news that's truly valid. I suppose you could simply go to www.riaa.com for that.

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Originally posted by robstar But they do! Putting tracks on vinly is pretty expensive, if someone puts ur track on a compilation u don't have to pay for the pressing. So since u don't have any expensives u make more money.

i was talking about the compilations labels release themselves. so in that case, there is pressing involved..

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