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Originally posted by caddyshack it's amazing that all these people have extensive schooling in the area of time travel! who knew?

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After spending over 2 hours reading this through this thread, I came to these conclusions:
Time travel may very likely exist, but we may never know that, not in our lifetime at least. We can prove it exists, but the dark groups of people who control this technology and ability to bend time may have strong affiliations with future world governing bodies which have already set up a future for themselves the way they want it, changed it and altered it using time travel technology with such precision that noone may ever find a trace of this (noone will even suspect they did anything). Whoever invents time travel FIRST into past/future and back-and-forth will possess the power to monopolize the outcome of the world and will not let another institution to use this technology, that is eliminating them before or after finding about their existence, and stuff like that. Thats a lot of power. This is a very dangerous technology.

Ok, now ... tell me if I am right on this or not. Lets say matter enters a black hole, which freezes time and that trapped matter will eventually exit onto a different time zone, possibly millions, billions or whatever years into the future or the past. Then the exit point would be in the same area (or on the opposite, white hole.) of the location of the black hole, the same pla ce but in the different time, lets say many billions of years before our universe had began, thus making a universe on a different time-space continuum. Or way into the future, where our universe is "lights out" by the forces of black energy ... After all, Hubble space telescope have documented a fabric in space that spewed out into our universe from apparently nowhere vast amounts of energy. Have an article about this, have to find it ...

Contact was a really great movie, one of my all-time favourites. A lot of great points, a lot of great ideas ... There are some lines in the movie used in some electronica tracks .... hehe ("But i guess i'd say it is just an awful waste of space" etc etc)

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Originally posted by Magnetonium There are some lines in the movie used in some electronica tracks .... hehe ("But i guess i'd say it is just an awful waste of space" etc etc)

that's like the symbol for oakey's another world CD 2 for me.... such a beautiful mix!


see, we know too little about black holes. and your theory on time travel is very valid, and that's why i'd like to believe it's impossible... it's just too sad to think that you can travel back in past and change whatever it is you want.

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Originally posted by whiskers that's like the symbol for oakey's another world CD 2 for me.... such a beautiful mix! see, we know too little about black holes. and your theory on time travel is very valid, and that's why i'd like to believe it's impossible... it's just too sad to think that you can travel back in past and change whatever it is you want.

Hehe, you know your music well, I got that album too and I know that first track on the second CD, hehe ../.

As sad as it might sound, it is a possibility ... we humans are baaaaaaad. We tend to abuse things ...

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Originally posted by Magnetonium As sad as it might sound, it is a possibility ... we humans are baaaaaaad. We tend to abuse things ...

some people like to abuse black holes

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Not abusing the black holes (you wish), I meant to say we as humans abuse stuff ..... like nature, technology .... and whoever gets their hands on time travel will have the ability to use it in harmful ways, dont you think .....

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Originally posted by Magnetonium Not abusing the black holes (you wish), I meant to say we as humans abuse stuff ..... like nature, technology .... and whoever gets their hands on time travel will have the ability to use it in harmful ways, dont you think .....

If you are right whoever does invent it first has to be very carefull IMO when traveling to the past just by doing that he is changing the timeline and by talking to someone you could chage allot even killing yourself because the person you talked to had to do with your birth and if you go to the future you are going to a different timeline without you in it so not really your future because you dissapeared. So if you think of it like this its pointless. Ofcourse then comes intoplay all that crap that "what if you were meant to go back in time" if you can time travel (meaning you can travel at the speed of light or faster) it would be interesting to travel the stars instead of timelines.

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I don't think you could go back in time and kill yourself or anyone or destroy anyone/anything because then it would have ceased to exist in the future therefore you would have never had the drive to go back in time and kill/destroy anyone/anything.

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Ok this is a interesting thread, but you people say that when you go closer to the Black Hole, time stops or slows down...

How has this been proven?

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Originally posted by Magnetonium After spending over 2 hours reading this through this thread, I came to these conclusions: Time travel may very likely exist, but we may never know that, not in our lifetime at least. We can prove it exists, but the dark groups of people who control this technology and ability to bend time may have strong affiliations with future world governing bodies which have already set up a future for themselves the way they want it, changed it and altered it using time travel technology with such precision that noone may ever find a trace of this (noone will even suspect they did anything). Whoever invents time travel FIRST into past/future and back-and-forth will possess the power to monopolize the outcome of the world and will not let another institution to use this technology, that is eliminating them before or after finding about their existence, and stuff like that. Thats a lot of power. This is a very dangerous technology. Ok, now ... tell me if I am right on this or not. Lets say matter enters a black hole, which freezes time and that trapped matter will eventually exit onto a different time zone, possibly millions, billions or whatever years into the future or the past. Then the exit point would be in the same area (or on the opposite, white hole.) of the location of the black hole, the same pla ce but in the different time, lets say many billions of years before our universe had began, thus making a universe on a different time-space continuum. Or way into the future, where our universe is "lights out" by the forces of black energy ... After all, Hubble space telescope have documented a fabric in space that spewed out into our universe from apparently nowhere vast amounts of energy. Have an article about this, have to find it ... Contact was a really great movie, one of my all-time favourites. A lot of great points, a lot of great ideas ... There are some lines in the movie used in some electronica tracks .... hehe ("But i guess i'd say it is just an awful waste of space" etc etc)

Explain to me exactly how u jumping into a black hole is gonna put the universe on rewind.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium After spending over 2 hours reading this through this thread, I came to these conclusions: Time travel may very likely exist, but we may never know that, not in our lifetime at least. We can prove it exists, but the dark groups of people who control this technology and ability to bend time may have strong affiliations with future world governing bodies which have already set up a future for themselves the way they want it, changed it and altered it using time travel technology with such precision that noone may ever find a trace of this (noone will even suspect they did anything). Whoever invents time travel FIRST into past/future and back-and-forth will possess the power to monopolize the outcome of the world and will not let another institution to use this technology, that is eliminating them before or after finding about their existence, and stuff like that. Thats a lot of power. This is a very dangerous technology. Ok, now ... tell me if I am right on this or not. Lets say matter enters a black hole, which freezes time and that trapped matter will eventually exit onto a different time zone, possibly millions, billions or whatever years into the future or the past. Then the exit point would be in the same area (or on the opposite, white hole.) of the location of the black hole, the same pla ce but in the different time, lets say many billions of years before our universe had began, thus making a universe on a different time-space continuum. Or way into the future, where our universe is "lights out" by the forces of black energy ... After all, Hubble space telescope have documented a fabric in space that spewed out into our universe from apparently nowhere vast amounts of energy. Have an article about this, have to find it ... Contact was a really great movie, one of my all-time favourites. A lot of great points, a lot of great ideas ... There are some lines in the movie used in some electronica tracks .... hehe ("But i guess i'd say it is just an awful waste of space" etc etc)

I must say I enjoy reading your conspiracy theories a lot

Anyway, once an object enters the black hole's event horizon, there's no way it's ever going to get out again, so the only thing that's going to happen to it is that it's gonna be sucked up and destroyed.

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Originally posted by caddyshack yeah your right. mass = 1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) amazing isn't it even ME! i guess we're all show-offs now

Actually it's more like the energy needed to accelerate that mass is approaching infinity.

E=mc^2/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)

The kinetic energy would be

Ek=E-mc^2=mc^2(1/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)-1)

So when the velocity approaches c, a very large increase in energy causes only a minor increase in speed. I guess you could say it appears that the mass is increasing, but that's only if you treat v^2/c^2 as a constant rather than a variable.

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Originally posted by Dj_Psygnosis Ok this is a interesting thread, but you people say that when you go closer to the Black Hole, time stops or slows down... How has this been proven?

It's been proven that gravitational fields cause time distortion. And Black Holes theoretically have stronger gravitational attraction than any other phenomena in the universe. Thus time slows way down.