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Echo of Silence
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: corner of the garden
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Okay, Orbs introduced this AskMen.com site to Chillout and now it keeps coming up.
Look at the kind of stuff you read there:
"Women are like spoiled children. They are self-focused, insecure and irrational. They crave drama and games. They demand constant attention, reassurance, and above all, power in relationships. And, like children, who ceaselessly push limits to see just how much they can get away with from their parents, women relentlessly test men."
So if you're a normal guy and you read stuff like this...
and then this girl who likes you so much wants a little attention aka positive reinforcement...
what do you do?
According to this AskMen.com guy:
She is NOT just a normal female looking for a little bit of positive feedback...a little bit of sweet talk...
She IS a "bitch," a "control freak" and she needs to be stopped!
In conclusion, the advice is:
When all else fails, walk away. Go out and look for a woman who doesn't need to test you and who genuinely appreciates you. This is your ultimate power as a man, and the ultimate "pass" of her tests.
Now, if there is a woman who isn't like this why doesn't the author say:
Some women are like spoiled children...
etc etc
Dunno, sometimes I feel like some of us are banging our heads on brick walls because of crap like this.
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Oct-26-2003 22:57
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arturob
Supreme tranceaddict

Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Miami
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Oct-27-2003 02:12
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daffodil
don't worry about it

Registered: Jun 2003
Location: brooklyn, usa
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| quote: | Originally posted by Orbax
askmen.com tends to be spot on, sometimes running a little bit on the player side, but otherwise...women are spoiled. They are taught by everything that they can do anything say anything and itll all be ok, or at least he wont kick your ass cuz youre a girl. Tests are bullshit, seeing how much you can get away is too. Women take pampering for granted. I think they should be treated like gold, but that doesnt mean if you shine em up, they go lookin for someone wholl melt em down and make em into a lil decoration.
im awesome at analogies btw
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Generalizations like that really make me angry. A lot of men like to spoil women because they think it buys them some sort of control, which is utterly infuriating. "Tests" are something men do all the time as well, but in different ways and to achieve different ends. Just thinking about this has me pretty worked up, so I'm going to leave off here and collect my thoughts a bit, maybe I'll post them later.
But fuck AskMen.com.
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Oct-27-2003 02:23
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Orbax
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Registered: Apr 2002
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| quote: | Originally posted by daffodil
Generalizations like that really make me angry. A lot of men like to spoil women because they think it buys them some sort of control, which is utterly infuriating. "Tests" are something men do all the time as well, but in different ways and to achieve different ends. Just thinking about this has me pretty worked up, so I'm going to leave off here and collect my thoughts a bit, maybe I'll post them later.
But fuck AskMen.com. |
Daff Daff Daff. Youre a cut above, a breed apart. You have to realize that most women, and I do mean most, are fucked in the head. Either coincidence is amazing, and i just happened to meet all the fucked up girls in the world, which is possible, but...
Every girl I have known has reached a point in my relationship where they decide to fuck everything up. I dont have a single female friend at the moment, cuz they all decided to try/actually get me into bed one way or another. Now, this is understandable, because im fucking awesome, but I had made my intentions clear to all of them, and they tried Rung Jumping in the ladder of life. All of the acquaintances Ive had have made similar fucked up decisions.
Men are morons too, dont get me wrong. Ive said it a LOT, 90% of people are fucking stupid, and both men and women fill that statement equally.
Askmen does cover a lot of relevant issues with women, doesnt mean they condone any of the situations themselves, they just answer the questions.
ALL people, and this is the basic principle of askmen, dont want people to always be there. Its referred to as challenge factor. Men challenge women differently than women challenge men, but it all = interest levels.
Summary: People are stupid, and dont like being loved.
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Oct-27-2003 02:34
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daffodil
don't worry about it

Registered: Jun 2003
Location: brooklyn, usa
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I hope you didn't think I was attacking you, Orbax, because I was attacking the argument presented by AskMen.com, which I'm sure is fine. When I first read it though, it really hit a nerve. I think you throw girls off because you are atypical of most men. I'd be a little thrown off if I were hitting on you because most guys who don't have sex do it for religious reasons, and those guys tend not to drink. Especially not like fish So you kind of see it coming.
I don't think it's accurate to say that people don't want to be loved. People don't want to be smothered, or feel obligated and guilted in reciprocity. There's a void of neediness that most people leave when they display affection and I can't stand it. Too often, people are "loving" because they need to feel loved -- so they give affection under the expectation that it be returned and things get ugly when/if it isn't. Think about it: how often can you not say, "I love you, too."
Everyone wants to be loved, but most people can't distinguish unconditional and selfless love from the self-serving kind that is prevalent.
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Oct-27-2003 03:34
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